Talk:Krusty Gets Kancelled/Archive 1

Worker and Parasite

Worker and Parasite desrve their own article, But will be linked from here.

Dfrg.msc User talk:Dfrg.msc 01:46, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

Gabbo

I don't think Gabbo is the foul-mouthed one. I think Arthur Crandall (his puppeteer) has multiple personality disorder and channels his evil side through Gabbo. It's like the Ventriloquist or Mr. Garrison or any other characters with multiple personalities. - Ndrly 23:46, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

Worker and Parasite

Actually, the visual style bears a distinct similarity to the films of Priit Pärn and other directors from Estonia. Compare for yourselves: [1] [2] [3] Esn 08:55, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

I doubt that The Simpsons writers even knew Priit Pärn exists. Given the fact that Itchy & Scratchy is obviously based on Tom & Jerry, it's a pretty safe bet it's a spoof on the Gene Deitch era. Gaunt Man (talk) 22:06, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

Worker and Parasite Explained

I put this in but it was deleted: It should not have been; can somebody who knows why put it in the "right" way...

The name could possibly be a reference to Communist ideals, hence Eastern Europe. This cartoon short is also a deliberately exquisitely-crafted highly-sophisticated masterpiece massive "insult"-via-indifference and American "marginalization" to both the themes, films, artistic, political, and human inpirations of the entire Central European independant cinema tradition that carefully strove to be both relevant (yet unthreatening) from the 1940's to 1980's under Soviet ideaological control. The various scenes, motives, imagery are drawn from dozens of both live action and animated cinema trends. Krusty's final clueless reaction is meant to represent not just the ideological collapse of the Soviet System, but more importantly (and more disturbingly) the total cluessness of current Americans (especially the younger ones) about any of the relevant historical, political, and economic life-or-death issues not only of that time and place but our own and our current inability to contextualize our own society. (Also it goes without saying that the one-dimensional good-versus-evil ideological-straightjacket-relationship that worker and parasite existed in is highlighted not just to refer to the ideological-narrowness of pure communist economic-policial society but to the ideological-narrowness and one-sidedness of the middle class American Popular "mind" with its emphasis on hedonistic nilhistic solipolistic self-rightous self-centered self-validation -- as we today are just as anthropologically-poor and self-oppossed as those forced to live in the utopia worker and parasite's ideological brainwashing was supposed to (but didn't) produce. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Asdlfjlssijdfi3434 (talk • contribs) 00:29, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

This is obvious to anyone who knows what communism is, and for such a short appearance in the episode, this long explanation is unwarranted. The most that's needed is a one-sentence mention with a link to communism.

Equazcion •✗/C • 06:31, 12/22/2007

I have always thought that Worker & Parasite was a parody of Gene Deitch's bizarre Tom & Jerry produced in Czechoslovakia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.232.253.81 (talk) 22:02, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

Simpsons movie

gabbo was briefly seen in the movie, is that worth mentioning? Skhatri2005 05:40, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

No. -- Scorpion⁰⁴²² 16:40, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Additional characters

A section removed by User:Scorpion0422. Image was uploaded by me, but taken down as this section was removed. Oh well. Anybody who wants it, tell me, or buy the DVD.

Luke Perry makes an appearance as a replacement for Sideshow Mel. He is said to be Krusty's worthless half-brother. He plays Sideshow Luke Perry, who features in a small scene where Krusty and Sideshow Luke Perry must build a balloon model. Luke Perry manages to make a 19th century carousel with just a couple of balloons. Krusty can only make a simple traditional horse, and Krusty becomes jealous and angry of his ability. In Krusty's imagination, Sideshow Luke Perry is shot from a cannon into a brick wall. Krusty's mind then shows the cover of a magazine called 'Peephole', in which Luke Perry's face has been humorously flattened, with the tagline "New look for Luke". When Krusty tries the act in real life, however, Luke is fired through a window, the Museum of Sandpaper, the Kwik-E-Mart's special sale of acid, and 'luckily' lands in a pillow factory (which is immediately demolished). He later appears in Moe's at the end, seemingly unharmed with only a small bandage on his forehead to suggest he has been hurt.

--rjcuk 20:45, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

The section was removed because it only seems to be a more detailed retelling of the events in the episode and has no real world context whatsoever. -- Scorpion⁰⁴²² 20:48, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Rex Morgan

What is the exact Rex Morgan quote, and shouldn't that be included in the Cultural references section? -- Monica

Unsourced material moved from article to talk page

Moved the info below from the article to the talk page. When sourced to WP:RS/WP:V secondary sources, the material can be gradually added back into the article. Cirt (talk) 01:47, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

Cultural references

• Rocky Balboa - The scene where Krusty punches the pork is a reference to the training style of Rocky Balboa portrayed by Sylvester Stallone in the Rocky films.
• Chilli Willi and the Red Hot Peppers - Barney believes that he is about to see this band, not the Red Hot Chili Peppers.
• Ed Sullivan — The scene in which Krusty instructs the Red Hot Chili Peppers to change the lyrics to the song "Give It Away" is a reference to Sullivan instructing The Doors to change the lyrics to the song "Light My Fire". Unlike the Doors, the Chili Peppers happily accept the new lyric.
• Elvis Presley's '68 Comeback Special — The Krusty Komeback Special is styled exactly like The King's prime-time special, aimed at getting him back into the spotlight after a sabbatical.
• Gabbo's theme song

— Pinocchio — The lyric "You're gonna like me" — as well as the newspaper headline "Gabbo to have real boy operation" — are references to the 1940 Disney film.

— Ringling Bros. and Barnum & Bailey Circus — The final line in the song ("It's the greatest show in town") is a reference to the circus' tagline.

• Greta Garbo — Mr. Burns misreads a billboard, causing him to tell Smithers that "Garbo is coming" and lightly groom himself.
• The Great Gabbo — Gabbo gets his name from the title character (a ventriloquist who operates a dummy named Otto) of the 1929 film.
• Howdy Doody — Gabbo's face looks just like the famous dummy (red hair, freckles), who hosted an afternoon children's program from 1947-1960.
• Jerry Lewis MDA Telethon — The reunion of Krusty and Sideshow Mel (during the clown's singing of "Send in the Clowns") is a reference to the 1976 on-air reunion between Jerry Lewis and Dean Martin on the former's annual telethon.
• Carmen - Johnny Carson balances a Buick Skylark car over his head while singing the famous aria Habanera
• "Peter and the Wolf" — The musical piece that Hugh Hefner plays on the wine glasses is from the children's story composed by Sergei Prokofiev.
• People magazine - imagined by Krusty as Peephole Magazine when trying to visualize Luke Perry's new look after he is shot out of a cannon.
• "That ought to hold the little bastards" urban legend – Gabbo's statement referring to his audience as "little SOBs" (which is caught on live air, thanks to Bart) — and later, Kent Brockman's comment when he thought the station had cut to a commercial break — is a reference to this broadcasting urban legend. The incident said to have inspired the urban legend had a children's radio (or television, depending on the source) host ending a program, then unaware the microphone was still live, uttered the infamous line, resulting in his near-immediate dismissal. It may also be a reference to a scene in the 1957 film A Face in the Crowd.
• The Tonight Show — Bette Midler's serenading Krusty is the way Bette sang to Johnny Carson on Carson's next-to-last show. Their duet, however, is likely a reference to Midler's 1977 duet with Tom Waits on "I Never Talk To Strangers," which appeared on Waits' album Foreign Affairs.

More unsourced stuff moved from article

Not really noteworthy enough to deserve its own subsection of this article, not to mention that this entire thing is completely unsourced WP:OR. Will try to find some secondary sourced discussion of this and add it back into the article somehow, but certainly not with this much emphasis. Cirt (talk) 04:03, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Worker and Parasite

Worker and Parasite (written "Сфир Ет. Ѕеqонж" on screen, but in Russian literally "Рабочий И Паразит") was a fictional cartoon in The Simpsons episode "Krusty Gets Kancelled." When the popular cartoon Itchy and Scratchy, featuring a very violent cat and mouse, leaves the Krusty the Clown Show for Krusty's new competitor, Gabbo, "Eastern Europe's favorite cat and mouse team, Worker and Parasite," was a cheap replacement. According to the title screen, it was made in 1959. Simpsons creator Matt Groening maintains that their appearance on the show is one of the best parts of the series.

The cartoon opened with some faux-Cyrillic credits, which are non-sensical in real Cyrillic. The cartoon itself was quite unintelligible, featuring a crudely drawn cat and mouse chattering incoherently and bouncing around to the tune of dissonant background music. Worker and Parasite are first seen in a factory (where a wrench and sickle are visible as well); they then move in front of a line of identical, miserable-looking peasants who are lining up for supplies of some sort, and then within a nest of squiggly lines, possibly meant to represent conflict between the two characters. The cartoon concludes with the screen reading "ENDUT! HOCH HECH!" Afterwards, Krusty's on-air response (before a vacant studio) was shocked silence, a limp cigarette hanging from his mouth, then promptly, "What the hell was that?!", just before the last member of the audience leaves. Worker and Parasite have also appeared in Simpsons Comics.

This parody of the song has become more well-known by many than the Collins version.

By many, eh? Remove or source, thankyouverymuch. CapnZapp (talk) 09:26, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Source is already provided, thankyouverymuch. Cirt (talk) 10:08, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Four fair-use images

This is probably a bit too much. Three would be plenty, IMO. Cirt (talk) 07:20, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

We've been able to get away with four in the past, as long as they all illustrate something in the text, and they all do. -- Scorpion⁰⁴²² 15:14, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

If you think so. IMO better to be on the safer side and be a tad more conservative. Cirt (talk) 20:17, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Next step

Could probably use a bit more copyediting, then off to peer review relatively soon, IMO. Cirt (talk) 03:45, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

???

Should it be mentioned that Marge does not have any dialogue in this episode? Mackatacka123 (talk) 12:50, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

Not unless it can be reliably sourced. Gran² 13:39, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

Kancelled?

did Kancelled actually have two "l"'s in it, even though it's an American show? the word is canceled with a K, isn't it supposed to be Kanceled? or is the article written in American English? were the writers British or something? I don't believe the title of the episode-SCB '92 (talk) 11:06, 16 July 2011 (UTC)

The official site very clearly spells it "Kancelled". Gran² 11:09, 16 July 2011 (UTC)

Ok, but I just don't get why they used both l's, as in British English, than just one, as in American English? and by the way, the first reference is a dead link-SCB '92 (talk) 11:12, 16 July 2011 (UTC)

Old Jewish Man

How could this be his first appearance when he already appeared in "New Kid on the Block"? Since no direct quote from the ref is provided, and it's clearly the same character, I'm removing it soon if nobody objects. Mac Dreamstate (talk) 13:42, 19 June 2014 (UTC)

No objection. CTF83! 23:40, 19 June 2014 (UTC)

With that said, could the entire line simply be moved to the "New Kid on the Block" article? I realise the ref won't match, but does everything trivial need ref'ing? Mac Dreamstate (talk) 17:19, 20 June 2014 (UTC)

It could if that's his first appearance. I don't really wanna watch the commentary to see if it is there or not. CTF83! 20:26, 20 June 2014 (UTC)

Edits by DangerousJXD degraded quality of article

Edits by DangerousJXD (talk · contribs) degraded quality of article.

Please explain on talk page why this Good Article quality rated article should be degraded in quality in this manner.

Thank you,

— Cirt (talk) 23:43, 24 February 2016 (UTC)

Update: Some of the edits appear to be constructive in nature. I've also gone ahead and replaced an image with a free-use image of Johnny Carson -- so I'm glad that image notice was left in the article body text ! — Cirt (talk) 00:10, 25 February 2016 (UTC)

As I am outright disgusted by the above comments, I wish to have no further interactions with you if that's how you are going to interact with me. You are treating me like a common vandal and you (ridiculously) view my good faith minor copyediting as mass destruction of the entire encyclopedia. —DangerousJXD (talk) 03:54, 25 February 2016 (UTC)

Thanks very much for your kind understanding and agreement to cease disrupting the article's quality and stability. Much appreciated, — Cirt (talk) 16:32, 25 February 2016 (UTC)

We all make mistakes; not everybody is willing enough to admit them. Instead, those people make comments like the above to reflect the complete opposite as to what is actually happening. We both know that comment is complete crap but you will never ever admit that but if you did, it would only be to 'win' the discussion. I'm not in any discussion to get the final witty comment. Just like any further comments of yours. They wouldn't be sincere comments addressing the issue. Oh well. To quote a troll, "Good luck" and goodbye. —DangerousJXD (talk) 21:49, 25 February 2016 (UTC)

I'm sorry you feel that way, but I wish you the best in your future endeavors. — Cirt (talk) 23:51, 25 February 2016 (UTC)