Talk:Kosh Naranek

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Lorien is the FIRST ONE, not first ones. To avoid confusion, I just deleted the "the first ones."Centralk 22:46, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

Disambiguation

I think there should be a disambiguation page on Kosh, due to the amount of other pages with the same first name.--Rabbitdude 16:20, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

Missing information

This article should probably explain the decision to kill off Kosh - was it planned from the beginning of the series, or as a result of the voice-actor leaving, 'etc? Inquiring minds want to know. Raul654 04:10, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

Kosh's death was planned from the start. Andrew Swallow 17:45, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Kosh's death was planned from the start-- but the timing wasn't. According to JMS posts on the internet, the original intent was for Kosh to die off later than he did. In terms of the "heroic journey", the death of the mentor is a necessary step. The timing came about at Kosh's request, in a sense. JMS, describing how characters come alive inside the author's imagination, said that Kosh (or rather, his own imaginative voice playing the part of Kosh) "told" him it was time.

More literally, JMS wrote a series of events that naturally flowed into Kosh's death, and the timing proved to be one of those cases where he felt that his literary judgment had improved since he'd first outlined the 5 year arc. Wellspring (talk) 20:30, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

Ulkesh material does NOT belong here

Ulkesh wasn't Kosh. He was misleading Sheridan, and insisted on being called Kosh to hide the real Kosh's death, as confirmed by JMS [1] about him mainly being a "pain in the butt" by not revealing his own real name. Vorlons like the air of mystery about themselves. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Garkbit (talk • contribs) 19:16, 15 April 2007 (UTC).

Agreed. Ulkesh needs a seperate entry. MagicFlyinLemur 21:30, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

Ulkesh needs some citation that his name is Ulkesh. It doesn't say this in the whole frakkin series anywhere. Otherwise his name is Kosh, like he said, and thus DOES belong right here.76.231.44.109 (talk) 09:40, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Ulkesh was named in the canon novel To Dream in the City of Sorrows, and confirmed by JMS on a mailing-list posting (text search for "same vorlon"). Geminidomino (talk) 16:37, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

I edited the article for him since there is confirmation. FaithLehaneTheVampireSlayer 00:09, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

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BetacommandBot (talk) 06:21, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Replace Quote

The article lists two examples for Kosh's vague answers, one of which is "The avalanche has already started, it is too late for the pebbles to vote." I do not think it is a good example, as this particular statement is - while admittedly very poetic and metaphorical - absolutely clear and comprehensible. I suggest to replace that quotation with other sentences more in line with the first example ("You have always been here."), such as "Understanding is a three-edged sword.", "Listen to the music, not the song." or "(...) Until you are ready." - "For what?" - "To fight legends." 129.69.215.37 (talk) 12:40, 5 August 2014 (UTC)