Talk:Klaipėda Revolt

Memelland

See also Memelland or Territoire de Memel as in the Treaty of Versailles. --Matthead 20:41, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

Please feel free to improve the article, or be a little more detailed than that. Thanks, heqs 15:10, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

What a great lie is this article. There was nothing like revolt. Simply lithunian aarmy was redressed as civilians. Now even lithunian historians admits it was occupation of Klaipėda/Memel territory. It's ridiculous use as references books, that were published in Soviet Lithuania in 1945-1990, historian R. Žiugžda - was famous for stalinistic style dogmas.--Tarakonas 14:27, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

Merger

This content belongs into the Memelland article, it a major part of the history there. It is suffering from too much Lithuanian POV, but this will be straigthened out by facts.--Matthead 02:39, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

Oppose merger. The revolt is a significant event on it's own. Renata 03:15, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

Oppose merger M.K. 18:20, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

Oppose merger. Don't see the alleged "too much Lithuanian POV". Please explain. --Lysy^talk 23:21, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

Oppose completely heqs 18:12, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Myth

There was no rebellion at all. See [1] —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vulpes vulpes (talk • contribs)

Well, there was a revolt, but it was mainly carried out by forces from outside, rather than from within the Memel territory. -- Matthead ^discuß!     O       20:27, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

If regular army from outside is redressed as rebellions and if rebellion is carried out by forces from outside, this don't makes a "rebellion" real rebellion. --Vulpes vulpes 10:34, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

biased articles

This is definitelly one of the most biased articles I have read in Wikipedia. I am really shocked.

And this one is the best: On January 19, the directory of Klaipėda region asked for admission into Lithuania as an autonomous territory (where the Klaipėda region would have a separate parliament and government, two official languages, be the administrator of taxes, duties, cultural and religious affairs, would oversee the local judicial system, agriculture and forestry, and social security). Lithuania accepted this, and thus the Klaipėda Region became an autonomous part of Lithuania. When I have read this? I remember, an Soviet encyclopedy about "admission" of Lithuania into Soviet Union in 1940.

This article definitelly is a shame... 79.64.179.71 21:55, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

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come on dudes,, i am by blood from Memel, and i know. That is a major Bull****! It was a clear occupaton... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.246.141.190 (talk) 20:29, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

Occupation not Revolt

Lithuanian propaganda! -- 217.255.216.86 (talk) 08:39, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

• 1921: Survey of 71.856 inhabitants: 54.429 for free state (against uniting with Lithuania)

• 1922: Memel city 93% ethnic Germans; Memel land 63% ethnic Balts (only few Lithuanians but majority were Prussians, Samogitians, Curonian-Latvians)

• 1922: The Prussian-Lithuanians didn´t want to unify with Lithuania because of catholic religion and low cultural and economic standard in Russian-Lithuania

• 1922: Galvanauskas starts the planing of “Operation Memel” because Simonaitis was back from Paris and told about the survey for a free state. Together with lithuanian marksmen they organized marksman associations in Memelland. “Memeler Schützenbund“ was lead by Kumietis from Kaunas.

• 1922: Lithuanian government asked Germany for permission to do that “revolt” and Germany agreed with the lithuanian plan because it was against Poland. They got 1,500 guns and 5 light MP with munition, Galvanauskas payed out of a secret fond. When lithuanian soldiers (about 2,000-3,000) came into Memelland, german policeman didn´t intervene. (French defenders 200 soldiers with 20-25 guns). Lithuanian uniforms were changed against civilian clothes in the railway to pretend to be Memellaender. Order of Galvanauskas: politeness, no plunder, no alcoholics, no political speeches, no lithuanian documents, no indication to lithuanian identity as tobacco and matchboxes. But leaflets in german language were full of mistakes and lithuanian idiomatic expression. They were starting in Heydekrug because that town had the greatest part of baltic inhabitants. Nevertheless the inhabitants stayed passive.

• 1922: Farmer Budrys was asked to be leader of the “revolt”, he rejected. So Povilaitis took his name to pretend to be a Memellaender.

• 1923: dead persons 10 Lithuanians, 2 Frenchmen, 1 german policeman. Lithuanian soldiers back to Lithuania, lithuania government “regrets to have not been able to help Memelland revolutionaries”.

• 1923: Polovinskas formed a new army and was advertising Memelland volunteers (2 Litas/ day). Lithuanian soldiers, mostly Samogitians were described by the lithuanian commander as “smugglers” and changed all 3 weeks.

• 1923: occupation of Memelland is accepted as fact by the conference of ambassadors

• 1923: inhabitants of Memelland have the possibility to optate for Germany or for Lithuania. Less than 600 persons of 150,000 inhabitants optate for Lithuania

• 1923-1937: 13,000 persons leave Memelland, 21,000 lithuanian persons imigrate into Memelland

Literature:

• Arbušauskaite, Arune: „Lietuvos Optantai: klaipediškiai, 1939“, S. Jokužio leidykla-spaustuve, Klaipeda 2001
• Jenkis, Helmut: Die Wandlungen und Wanderungen des Pfarrers Dr. Wilhelm Gaigalat in Annaberger Annalen 2006
• Jenkis, Helmut: Der „Führerbrief“ des Pfarrers Dr. Wilhelm Gaigalat in Annaberger Annalen 2007 -- 217.255.247.236 (talk) 16:34, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

No POV

Renata3 liked to remove this:

Result "The at that time popular arguments about the "revolt" of Memellanders are still reiterated today as if Lithuanian achievements after 1990 are still not yet available and as if no conferences occurred between Lithuanian and German historians.

In 1965 the former leaders of the "revolt" were the opinion to keep furthermore the secret about the real details because Lithuania could be compromised in admitting the scandal of the fraud and conspiracy."

Source:

Vygantas Vareikis, Ein zählebiger Mythos oder wer hat das Memelgebiet befreit?, p.195 in [2]"

The past is past, Lithuanian archives are open and European historians talk with each other again! So we do not need more propaganda of the past, and certainly not in the wikipedia. Kaubri (talk) 16:51, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

I hold Viktor Gailius' entire photo journal, as the war broke out.

I'm Viktoras Gailius' only living descendant, carrying his exact name! Check with me, fellas, if you need photos and history, perhaps. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.127.139.185 (talk) 22:34, 20 May 2014 (UTC)

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