Talk:Kingdom of Italy (Napoleonic)

"National anthem" removed

Greetings, please pardon my rash intervention on this arcticle, but someone had erroneously inserted the file Marcia_per l'Imperatore_Bonaparte.ogg, allow me an explaination as to why I think "erroneously" :

The summary of the aforementioned file mentions as source a flag&anthem video on the Lord Daine YouTube channel, & one of the comment remarks how it's merely a medley of two military marches : "Le pas redouble de la garde imperial" & "On vas leur percer le flanc" ; Sure enough, the marches are very present on the internet, & this file IS just the two either performed one after the other, OR stucked together via editing.

Given the lacking reliability of the source (unintentional as it might be, mayhap induced by ipse-dixit or field dependence), the nature of the melody (or rather, melodies), & the lack of further info, I earnestly doubt the circumstances could possibly favor the thesis that this could be regarded as an anthem.

Non-withstanding, I wouldn't exclude that some French tunes could've been used by military units &/or possibly populace of Italic heritage, & indeed the topic of music in Napoleonic Italy could use some research, perhaps by actual professionals dealing with period documents. All what I, a random netizen, can find from that era is the Inno Patriottico della Repubblica Napoletana/Partenopea from 1799, composed by Domenico Cimarosa, with lyrics by Luigi Rossi, which isn't too prominent on the web either... Thank you very much indeed for your time & patience, have a good day/night.AnyNameOus (talk) 14:48, 1 March 2023 (UTC)

so my suspicion were correct in the end.

Very well, let's remove this nonsense TheFlagandAnthemGuy (talk) 01:24, 30 May 2023 (UTC)

Do you agree with AnyNameOus? Doubt is not a good thing, but I don't think it makes any sense. However, I think it means that the source he provided lacks trust or faith. Currently, due to the copyright and license controversy in Wikipedia, music files under discussion have been deleted or placed on the deletion list, and it will be impossible to deal with them. Most YouTube music files uploaded by YouTubers are pointed out, and censorship will be intensified in the future. --Vichycombo (talk) 21:19, 30 May 2023 (UTC)

Sure I agree, I recognized myself the two tracks.

Also, look at date and historical context and ask yourself if such a composition would not be an anachronism.

Even if such a composition had really its name (and I doubt it), what is the source? Do we have a music score? A decree? A report of public execution or audience reception?

I'm afraid we are perpetuating a hoax TheFlagandAnthemGuy (talk) 10:39, 31 May 2023 (UTC)

"Puppet state" reverted

Anarcham, i don't get why you reverted it back to "sovereign state". This article is classified as part of the category of "client states", the corresponding article states that:

"Types of client states include: satellite state, associated state, puppet state, neo-colony, protectorate, vassal state and tributary state."

So how could this one be called a "sovereign state" at all? That's a bit contradictionary isn't it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.254.45.254 (talk) 19:04, 7 October 2013 (UTC)

King

If this article is about a kingdom, why Napoleon is named president? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.117.192.163 (talk) 15:56, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

Kingdom of Italy (Napoleonic, 1805–1814).ogg

Why was this removed from the National anthem? I found the file on YouTube and uploaded it myself, but I heard the reason why it was removed in the summary. But what do you mean specifically that two French military marches cannot be used or replaced as a nation? Invoke YouTubers and Wikipedia users TheFlagandAnthemGuy. --Vichycombo (talk) 21:24, 30 May 2023 (UTC)

Simple: because the kingdom never had one. TheFlagandAnthemGuy (talk) 10:36, 31 May 2023 (UTC)