Talk:Kingdom of Galicia and Lodomeria

Latest comment: 9 months ago by Mcljlm in topic Borders map

Fork edit

This newly-"created" article is a cut-and-paste fork of about 80% of the material in Galicia (Central Europe). The problems with this are:

  • The cut-and-paste doesn't acknowledge the source in the edit summary, orphaning the long edit history of the original material. See Wikipedia:Copyrights.
  • It is a content fork: an exact duplicate of a very large block of material which is now in two places. If this warrants its own article, then the source should be pared down in summary style. See Wikipedia:Content forking.

 Michael Z. 2006-11-27 16:17 Z

I restored a redirect back to a source. First, forks are harmful in multiple ways. Second, by rule of thumb many articles on historic territories we now have cover both the territory in general and an the territorial provinces/states. See, eg. Moldavia, which is about both the Moldavian principality and the historic territory, or Bukovina. --Irpen 17:23, 27 November 2006 (UTC)Reply

I strongly disagree. This entity should have an article of its own, and using material from G(CE) to create it is a normal Wiki growth procedure. Both articles are linked - this one notes that the main history article is at G(CE), and that article links to this one - so all is perfectly normal. This is also not a content fork. -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk  16:04, 14 July 2007 (UTC)Reply

Nominal Independence? edit

This article states that the Kingdom was independent in from mid-1917 to the end of 1918. There are no sources that I know of which mention this, can one be cited?--68.1.119.40 (talk) 02:35, 19 December 2009 (UTC)Reply

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Recent reverts edit

The discussion is under the same subject at Austria-Hungary talk page.(KIENGIR (talk) 11:24, 8 July 2020 (UTC))Reply

Borders map edit

The map showing Galicia's borders and modern state borders is in Spanish and, as its creator mentions[1] based on a German version[2]. Since this is English WP perhaps one of you AaronCR7god/HurricaneLaura2020, Amitchell125, BD2412, Boubloub, HeyElliott, IvanScrooge98, Laurel Lodged, Phaisit16207, Synotia or Wario2 could replace it with an English version. Mcljlm (talk) 23:18, 4 July 2023 (UTC)Reply

I'm afraid that I don't have those skills. But it's such a good map that I would hate to lose it, even if it is in Spanish. Laurel Lodged (talk) 11:47, 5 July 2023 (UTC)Reply
I wondered if someone could create an English version based on the German or Spanish versions. Mcljlm (talk) 14:42, 5 July 2023 (UTC)Reply
Sure, I'm gonna translate it (not only to English but to other languages as well). Wario2 (talk) 18:03, 6 July 2023 (UTC)Reply
@Wario2: I wish I'd replied a little sooner. I was going to say you shouldn't bother with it as the map is pretty inaccurate, so translating it in its current state, particularly into several languages, seems counter-productive. However, I see you've done it already, at least for English. (I do notice though that you haven't attributed the original author which is required by the Creative Commons Attribution and Free Art Licenses used.)
Regardless, I am in the process of making a sort-of hybrid of this map and a partitions map such as Kingdom of Galicia.png (i.e. it shows the various historical parts of Galicia and Lodomeria on modern borders) to a high level of detail and precision (similar to a locator map).
If a simpler map like the current one is preferred it would be very straightforward to do (and I will probably do it regardless once I am finished), but a consensus on which "version" of Galicia and Lodomeria to do (with or without Kraków, Bukovina, Zamość etc) would be good.
P.S. Mcljlm, I took the liberty of changing the links in your "refs" to standard wikilinks rather than URLs. I hope you don't mind. (For future reference you can do this by adding a colon : at the beginning of the link so that it displays as a link rather than an image.)
Alphathon /'æɫ.fə.θɒn(talk) 22:17, 7 July 2023 (UTC)Reply
Thanks Wario2. I've only just come across your reply as the notification only seems to have appeared in the last day or so. Thanks to you too Alphathon for your changes. I don't mind at all; useful to know about. If I'd noticed your December map edit I would have pinged you but I only included those who'd edited this year. Mcljlm (talk) 03:09, 9 July 2023 (UTC)Reply

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