Talk:Kilchurn Castle

Incorrect information?

The opening sentence says "Kilchurn Castle is a ruined 14th century structure on the northeastern end...", but all mentions of its initial construction, including dates on other websites, say that its earliest section was built in 1450. Then again, I just read this a Scottish clan encyclopedia: "Robert the Bruce granted the barony of Loch Awe, which included much of the MacGregor lands, to the chief of the Campbells. In common with many royal gifts of the time, it was left to the recipient to work out how he would take possession of it. The Campbells had already built the stout Castle of Kilchurn, which controlled the gateway to the western Highlands. They harried the MacGregors, who were forced to retire deeper into their lands until they were largely restricted to Glenstrae."

This gift of the barony of Loch Awe had to have happened before Robert the Bruce's death in 1329, yet the text says "the Campbells had already built the stout Castle of Kilchurn", which suggests that the castle was indeed built in the early to mid-1300s. If the textbook is right--perhaps it's not and is getting ahead of itself and jumping to a hundred years after Robert I's reign--then saying the castle was built starting in circa 1450 is incorrect.

If 1450 is correct, shouldn't that first sentence say "Kilchurn Castle is a ruined 15th century structure on the northeastern end..."? Using 14th predates facts by at least fifty years, so I hope someone will know which date is correct.

Rubyhatchet (talk) 23:05, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Incorrect Dates for Taymouth Castle

This page (as of January 2013) says that the Campbells moved to Taymouth Castle in 1740. The entry for Taymouth Castle says that it was built in the early 19th century on the site of an earlier castle. When did the Campbells move, and where did they move to? Darkstar8799 (talk) 19:59, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

Taymouth Castle is a 19th-century rebuilding of an earlier structure. In the 18th century the original building was remodelled by William Adam, so its likely that the Campbells moved in then? Taymouth was earlier known as Balloch but I'm not sure when the name changed. Its not the dates that are incorrect, I think, but the statement that the earlier castle was demolished: it wasn't (entirely), and some of its fabric is still present within the existing building. Hope that makes sense. Thanks, Jonathan Oldenbuck (talk) 11:17, 11 January 2013 (UTC)

Thanks Jonathan. I suspected it was something like that. So few of the castles that we see today were really just built from nothing on a completely unoccupied site. Also deciding what degree of decrepitude counts as "demolished" and what degree of change is required for something to be a new castle versus a renovation of an existing one is obviously a judgment call. Darkstar8799 (talk) 19:29, 26 February 2013 (UTC)

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Apparently qualifies as an island, but was attached to the mainland by artificial means. --MacRusgail (talk) 20:35, 5 January 2008 (UTC) As the article lacks references I am reluctant to add an 'importance' (which would probably be 'mid') until its ex-island status can be verified. Ben MacDuiTalk/Walk 16:56, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

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