Talk:Kevin Myers/Archive 1

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Revert 86.40.15.17

Reverted because POV and anon. The reason given by User:86.40.15.17 was "neither are legitimate or reasonable sources". Indymedia offers space for both positive and negative views of all subjects posted, hardly unreasonable and Myserswatch is designated as satirical in the article. I don't understand what "legitimate" means in this contextKaptKos 14:56, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

• Well according to Wikipedia:Verifiability#Self-published_sources they're not acceptable as sources since they're self-published (Myerswatch is a weblog, and Indymedia does not exercise editorial control over article contributions). However, they are not being cited as sources or references for any of the facts in the article, so I don't see any harm in leaving them in the "external links" section. Demiurge 15:19, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
  • I should have stated that they were not being used as sources in the article, which was what I meant KaptKos 15:29, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

• My link to Myerswatch has been deleted? It's a very valid link as many appended links are to blogs i.e. the link to christopherhitchenswatch on the wiki of the same journalist. This particular blog is certainly of a high standard and works as an archive of views on Myer's articles. Also, the satirical blog's name 'cruiskeen eile' is named after Myles na gCopaleens' newspaper column called Cruiskeen Law, which has it's own mocking origins.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myles_na_gCopaleen

Therefore I will reinsert the link to myerswatych http://myerswatch.blogspot.com/ I hope it will remain....

• The link is yet again absent. The history comments of the deleter, with respect to the popularity of said blog, is irrelevant as a barometer of inclusion of a link within the external link section of this or any other wikipedia entry. The quality of a satirical site, as with any other form of satirical media, is a subjective decision and again should not be a barrier to entry of something of direct relevance to the subject at hand, which the link above is. I therefore reinsert the link to myerswatch http://myerswatch.blogspot.com/

• I'd be inclined to leave the blog link in. No, blogs aren't acceptable as sources on Wikipedia, but this blog isn't being presented as a source for any of the facts in the article, just as an "external link". Please comment here before deleting it again. Demiurge 09:28, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

He left the Irish Times?

This article says he left The IT for the Irish Independent. Does anybody know the background to this? El Gringo 02:15, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

Link to Daily Ireland article on Myers appearance on Tubridy Show provides some background to his move.

--Damnbutter 16:37, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

Hurray, now I can start to buy the Irish Times again--KaptKos 20:39, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

Just for the record...

Tá TG4 beo fos, agus níos láidre ná riamh. But where oh where is our Kevin Myers? Down at his appropriate intellectual and qualitative level would be my response. 193.1.172.163 02:54, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

Photo

Have you ever seen a smugger git in your life? --KaptKos 09:39, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Ahh! Thats better --KaptKos 15:45, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Countess Markievicz

Can anyone help? I'm looking for an article by Myers about Countess Markievicz. In it, Myers maintains that when Markievicz was courtmartialled after the Easter Rising she pleaded for her life and said, "You can't shoot a woman". (Not true, incidentally; I've seen a copy of the courtmartial record, which is freely available from the Kew archives.) I've done the usual internet searches but can't locate the article. Anyone in here have a copy, or can point me to a publication and date? Muchos thanksus. Ryancolm 12:30, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

Colm, I'm not sure if you are still there but that article was written on December 17 2004. I'll cut and paste the entire article from Lexus Nexus Professional on your homepage. If you are in any university in Ireland you should be able to get access to that yourself. 89.100.195.42 13:03, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Aaahhhh thank you, kind sir! Unfortunately I haven't access to Lexus Nexus, hence I'm grateful for your cut & paste. Thanks again. Ryancolm 13:50, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

"Myers' Irish Times articles were often in contrast to its left-leaning editorial position"

I'd love to know by what conceivable metric the Irish Times' editorial position could be described as left-leaning, except perhaps in the ludicrous North American definition of that term. DublinDilettante 05:27, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

By which you mean centralist. I agree, and removed the statement. IMO, Myers is a controversialist (nothing wrong with that, people buy newspaper to read that kind of thing), and leans from left to right as each article demands. Ceoil 19:50, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Creationist-anti intellectualism

Did he not reject the theory of evolution in one of his articles -early 2007-in the Irish independent?

Are you thinking of this article? I wouldn't call that either of the above, but rather file it under the fairly standard "controversialism", and "non-scientist sounds off on science". Alai 18:23, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

Eejit

He's an awful eejit. Could some writer-type person please say that? Much appreciated. 86.42.90.145 (talk) 15:16, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Myers seems to feel it already did that.[1]--T. Anthony (talk) 10:23, 27 May 2008 (UTC)