Talk:Kevin McBride

Bias

This article is biased... Kevin McBrides defeat of Damata was anything but 'emphatic'... Damata was an old man and although ahead on the score cards quit out of frustration... it is the OPINION of many that he quit because if he could not KO a boxer like Kevin Mcbride that he should not bother with his come back because he would stand no chance against a genuinly world class fighter... I've added that this was an opinion held by many people twice, I have never tried to state that it was a fact. I have just been trying to give readers a true understanding of Kevin McBrides victory and how the majority of the boxing community see it.

Damata was old and washed up, yes. McBride is not a serious contender, absolutely true. But when your opponent can't make scratch after the 6th round, that's an emphatic victory. The fact that beating the aging, pathetic Sunny Damata is no great accomplishment is a different matter. Also, Damata was ahead overall but had lost the last two rounds, was tiring a lot faster, and had already gone down while showing no sign at all of threatening or knocking McBride down. It was an ugly fight between a journeyman and a has-been, no question. Ben-w 05:25, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

And every time I try to post that this is an opinion seen by so much of the boxing community that its a fact, some McBride fanboy (god knows why you would be Kevin McBride's fanboy... irish roots or something?...) deletes it to maintain an impression to the boxing ignorant that McBride was good enough to trade with the likes of Tyson at a level higher than what it actually was.

Well, yours is a tough life, to be sure. How about (a) signing your posts and (b) being a little less confrontational and paranoid? Ben-w 16:05, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

Paranoid? haha you think that a wiki page just edits itself or something? Why don't you like me being confrontational? I'm not exactly sure whats tough about it though... but if I'm being confrontational (assertive) complaining that life is tough (huh?) and paranoid (what about?...) then maybe you need to go back to disney land where they raised you.

Categories

First -- is there any evidence that Kevin McBride is a practising Roman Catholic? Even if so, I doubt that it's a defining attribute for him or those around him. The category is never going to be remotely complete and has little value.

Second -- he is from Clones, Co. Monaghan, not from Boston. He is not a Bostonian.

Ben-w 21:17, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

He currently lives in Boston. For you to call the Catholic category silly just demonstrates that an anti-Catholic bias and not familiar with normal wikipedia categories. 75.3.4.54 21:37, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

Well I don't know if the removal of the Roman Catholic category is a result of bias, but I feel that it should be included. And if he resides in Boston right now, then the Bostonian category should be kept as well. — ßottesiηi ^(talk) 21:52, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

If you wish to add the "Bostonian" category, provide a source which illustrates that he is, in fact, from Boston.

If you insist on including the sectarian category, you must provide a source which illustrates that he is, in fact, a practicing Roman Catholic.

For the pair of you to blithely accuse me of bias is as hatefully unpleasant as it is unwarranted, and a simple check of my user contributions would reveal my familiarity with Wikipedia. The reason I think that "Roman Catholic sportspeople" is an absurd category is because it would be immensely long, impossibly vague, and inevitably incomplete. There are also other reasons why someone from Ireland -- especially a border town such as Clones -- might prefer not to define himself sectarian terms.

In general, please discuss the facts and the article and refrain from saying anything whatsoever about me, especially anything you don't know to be true. You are likely to get it wrong, and it's irrelevant to Kevin McBride anyway. Stop talking about me entirely. Stop saying what you think about me, stop insulting me and calling me names.

This page is intended for discussing this article and changes thereto; messages on my talk page are unnecessary. Ben-w 22:00, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

Ben, how will the category ever be complete if people like you continue to remove people from it? And why is your problem with Roman Catholic sportspeople and not with any of the other categories based on the religion of people in sports?

Also, if you read in the article, it says McBride is based out of Brockton, Massachusetts. Do you think that McBride commutes from Clones to Brockton everytime he trains?

Kevin McBride lives in the heavily Irish Dorchester section of Boston. Here is a source [1]. 75.3.4.54 22:34, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

I KNOW where he lives, dammit, that's not an issue, it never was, and you know it. That's a pathetic straw man. "Bostonian" implies, typically, a native of Boston. He's a native of Clones, Co. Monaghan. He's a resident of Boston (or the greater Boston area, anyway).

I did not take a position on the religion of people in sports category at all prior to this. The relevant page on my watchlist is ... KEVIN McBRIDE! I reverted the introduction of a classification that I see as at best pointless, and at worst divisive and sectarian.

And why are you still talking about me anyway? Stick to the issue at hand: in this case, Kevin McBride. Ben-w 23:17, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

Of course I know McBride was born in Ireland, the issue for me was always about the fact he now resides in Boston. 75.3.4.54 04:09, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

References

They can do wonders when it comes to an argument. --andreasegde 17:14, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

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