Talk:Keep It Together (song)/GA1

Latest comment: 11 years ago by Wikipedian Penguin in topic GA Review

GA Review edit

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Reviewer: Wikipedian Penguin (talk · contribs) 13:19, 25 November 2012 (UTC)Reply

I will be reviewing this article. Thank you to the nominator for picking this up. —WP:PENGUIN · [ TALK ] 13:19, 25 November 2012 (UTC)Reply
Great work. I've passed the article. —WP:PENGUIN · [ TALK ] 22:23, 27 November 2012 (UTC)Reply

Source spotcheck: I'll try and be careful with this article, knowing what it's been through.

  • "The song starts with the sound of slap bass playing along with sequenced synth bass, as Madonna sings the opening lines 'Keep, keep it together, keep people together forever and ever'." – this requires an inline citation.
  Done
  • "Keep it Together" sheet music is not available on Musicnotes.com.
Removed.
  • "Lucy O'Brien, author of Madonna: Like an Icon, described it as an 'upbeat meditation on sibling power'." – this requires a citation too.
  Done
  • "Spin's Joe Levy observed that 'Keep It Together' was a 'girly-disco' song that drew influences from Sister Sledge's 'We Are Family' and Madonna's own 'Into the Groove'." – this requires a citation too.
  Done
  • The paraphrasing here is a bit too close to the original: "Stephen Holden from The New York Times believed that the song resurrected the edgy pop-funk style and hippie optimism of Sly and Family Stone."
  Done
  • "Journalist J. D. Considine, while reviewing the album for Rolling Stone, felt that 'Keep It Together' portrayed a 'an impressive invocation of the importance of family'." – needs an inline citation too.
  Done
  • "Three months since its release, it was certified gold by the Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA) for shipment of 500,000 copies of the single." – unsupported by source.
  Done
  • Ref 32 and 58 are the same.
  Done
  • "'Finally, right when you think I'll end [the concert] on a happy note, I come out with my family to do a Bob Fosse-meets-'Clockwork Orange' rendition of 'Keep It Together'.[43] It's the show's ultimate statement about the family, because we're absolutely brutalizing with each other, while there's also no mistaking that we love each other deeply.'" – why is there a citation in the middle of the quotation, but not at the end of it?
  Done

I'm not sure if everything it's done. And I'm looking for a sheet music for the song. 11Jorn Time goes by so slowly 17:55, 25 November 2012 (UTC)Reply

This is partially why I'd like for us to be allowed to use musicnotes.com URLs. That way, it would be easier to check sourcing and verify chord progressions, keys, etc. Unless you can find a replacement source, you may have to remove the info that cites the sheet music. —WP:PENGUIN · [ TALK ] 19:13, 25 November 2012 (UTC)Reply
Removed. 11Jorn Time goes by so slowly 19:22, 25 November 2012 (UTC)Reply
I will resume my review, making light copy edits as I go. —WP:PENGUIN · [ TALK ] 21:40, 25 November 2012 (UTC)Reply

Prose: I am making copy edits, but have a few queries.

  • What is meant by "receiving limited release" here: "Although receiving limited release, the song was a commercial success, reaching a peak of number eight on the Billboard Hot 100 and Canadian charts, while topping the dance chart in the United States."?
  Done
  • This sentence is hard to follow: "It was added as the last song of the setlist and the performance was inspired by the 1971 science fiction film, A Clockwork Orange, in its staging and featured an introductory verse from 'Family Affair' by Sly and the Family Stone."
  Done
  • "As Madonna pondered over her thoughts, producers Patrick Leonard and Stephen Bray experimented with various instrumental tracks and musical ideas for her consideration.[2] The song was released as the sixth and final single from the album on January 30, 1990, by Sire Records.[1] In Australia it was released as the B-side of "Vogue", while it was not released in the United Kingdom at all, where "Dear Jessie" served as the album's final single." – a jarring transition from experimenting with music, to the release of the final version of the song as a single.
  Done
  • The block quotation seems a bit too long. My suggestion would be to trim it down.
What block quotation?
  • The long quotation in the Background section. —WP:PENGUIN · [ TALK ] 22:44, 25 November 2012 (UTC)Reply
  Done
Remember that removing words inside a quotation requires that ellipses (...) be put in their place. —WP:PENGUIN · [ TALK ] 23:31, 25 November 2012 (UTC)Reply
  Done
  • "He believed that Madonna's preoccupation with her mother's death and obsession with Catholicism was transferred in her fascination for family, which was reflected in the song." – this sentence is unclear.
  Done
  • This, too, is unclear: "...believed that the purpose behind the song was to present a homey image of brothers and sisters jostling together..."
  Done
  • "...on the issue dated April 28, 1990, which was its 13th week on the chart." – how can a specific date be a week?
  Done
  • "It was added as the closing song and the performance was inspired by the 1971 science fiction film, A Clockwork Orange, and featured an introductory verse from "Family Affair" by Sly and the Family Stone." – this lacks logical coherence, because we have loosely relate ideas poorly joined together. The sentence should either be split up, or be structured better.
  Done
I made two versions of this last one, check the history and see which is the best. 11Jorn Time goes by so slowly 22:36, 26 November 2012 (UTC)Reply
The current version works well. —WP:PENGUIN · [ TALK ] 23:30, 26 November 2012 (UTC)Reply

Stability and neutrality: No issues.

Media: No issues.

Manual of style:

  • Per MOS:LEAD, the article has 13 KB of prose, which is not enough to have three paragraphs in the lead. I suggest having only two and trimming the lead down a bit.
I think it's   Done.

Final assessment: Passed.