Talk:Kayako Saeki

Latest comment: 1 year ago by SLIMHANNYA in topic Onryō?

Onryō?

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Does anyone have a source that Kayako is an Onryō? My understanding from the film (and the opening text) was that Kayako isn't any kind of ghost or spirit, but rather a manifestation of the rage left behind when the Saeki family was killed that acts as a curse. The appearance of Kayako, her son, and (at one point) even her husband are all part of the Ju-on curse.

The Onryō claim seems like an assumption and western misunderstanding of the film. But granted, I have only seen Ju-on: The Curse 1-2 and Ju-on: The Grudge 1-2, so maybe there's a retcon I'm not aware of. Darkknight2149 22:12, 15 February 2022 (UTC)Reply

This is why I attempted to redirect. Best thing to do is for a person who is interested on the article to rewrite entirely the page from the draft. The article has was way too many issues, including the sources. 2001:4455:364:A800:69ED:98AE:B3B4:FB90 (talk) 06:03, 16 February 2022 (UTC)Reply
That's not a reason to redirect, per WP:NEXIST, WP:ARTN, and WP:PRESERVE. Poor quality of a current revision of an article isn't a good reason to delete/redirect. Darkknight2149 07:58, 16 February 2022 (UTC)Reply
Additionally, if a poorly-written article needs to be rewritten from scratch, the correct template is {{rewrite}}. {{notability}} has no relation to the current quality of an article and refers specifically to WP:Notability. Darkknight2149 08:33, 16 February 2022 (UTC)Reply
She is "yūrei", "onryō", and "jibakurei". These terms are called differently depending on which element you focus on as a yūrei. If the focus is on holding a grudge, it is appropriate to call it an "onryō", and if the focus is on associating it with a specific place, it is appropriate to call it a "jibakurei". Incidentally, the Japanese version of Wikipedia classifies her as an onryō.--SLIMHANNYA (talk) 06:51, 25 February 2023 (UTC)Reply