Talk:Karenni language

Latest comment: 2 months ago by 92.109.80.245 in topic Burma?

Requested move 21 September 2022

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The result of the move request was: moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) ASUKITE 15:22, 29 September 2022 (UTC)Reply


Red Karen languageKarenni language – Per WP:COMMONNAME. "Red Karen" is an archaic exonym and no longer widely used by scholarly sources; Karenni people was moved for this reason. "Kayah" language is an option, but I would not vouch for that option given that the background of its coinage is extremely political. "Kayah" is the Burmese transliteration of the people / language and an exonym opposed by numerous Karenni organisations. Compare results on Google Scholar: Karenni language, Red Karen language, and Kayah language. Compare on Google Books, and make note of the dates of the Red Karen sources: Karenni language, Red Karen language, and Kayah language. Yue🌙 07:31, 21 September 2022 (UTC)Reply

I agree, Karenni remains more frequently used in English souces. I will note though that the name 'Karenni' is merely an anglicisation of the Burmese word 'Kayinni' (lit. 'Red Karen') that was adopted by the British, much like 'Karen,' while 'Kayah' is a native Karenni word. More details here. --Hintha(t) 23:23, 24 September 2022 (UTC)Reply
Thank you for pointing out my mistake; I noticed my blunder as well while reviewing the literature today. Yue🌙 04:49, 27 September 2022 (UTC)Reply
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Burma?

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I think the term Burma, used in the top of the article, should be switched to Myanmar. The name Burma was used during colonial rule, and the country of Myanmar now has the latter as its contemporary name.

The embedded link also redirects to the article about Myanmar. 92.109.80.245 (talk) 10:21, 31 August 2024 (UTC)Reply