Talk:Kamloops Wawa

Latest comment: 9 years ago by Skookum1 in topic "Superior" of the Diocese of Kamloops?

have examples of use on native graveyard markers edit

recently thanks to a local history FB group, I came across some pics of an old St'at'imc graveyard on Seton Lake where the headstones are clearly in Duployan/Kamloops Wawa.....haven't had time to decipher them, if someone here is an adept with the shorthand, please use "email this user" and I'll send them to you for deciphering.Skookum1 (talk) 05:20, 19 February 2013 (UTC)Reply

Lejeune's motives edit

Easily citable, there's another aspect to the promulgation of the KW script; Lejeune wanted his native/Catholic flock to be more immune/apart from the effort of Protestant missionaries and Anglo culture, the script was meant to confer literacy without encouraging the use of English, and such that the biblical materials could be learned directly into native languages and so reduce exposure to Protestantism; he didn't want integration of native peoples with whites; he wanted segregation for evangelism purposes; various texts discuss this, I'll see what I find as time goes on.Skookum1 (talk) 04:47, 2 March 2013 (UTC)Reply

"Superior" of the Diocese of Kamloops? edit

This page says that Le Jeune was "superior of the Roman Catholic Diocese of Kamloops in British Columbia". Catholic dioceses are presided over by bishops (and archdioceses by archbishops). I've never heard of the title "superior" being used in reference to diocesan administration, and no source is cited for this claim. Religious orders often use the title superior (sometimes in combination with other words) for someone who is in charge of a particular community of the order at a particular location, and the Dictionary of Canadian Biography does say Fr. Le Jeune was a member of a religious order (the Oblates of Mary Immaculate) and that he was the "superior of St. Louis’s mission". There is no mention of his having led the Diocese of Kamloops under any title.

It's also possible the author of this sentence didn't mean that Le Jeune was "the superior" of the diocese, but was "a superior" of the diocese in the same sense you might say someone was "a priest of the diocese" -- i.e., a priest belonging to the diocese. However, as Fr. Le Jeune was a religious priest (O.M.I.) and not a diocesan priest, you would not even say he was a "priest of the diocese" or a "superior of the diocese" in that sense; he may have been a priest or superior "in" the diocese, but he was a priest "of" his order, and a superior "of" his community or by extension his order.

I will not make the correction because I don't have any source to cite. 76.121.65.17 (talk) 06:56, 30 October 2014 (UTC)Reply

I haven't looked at the history of the diocese, but given there were few priests of any kind in the region, he may have had the role of [first] bishop; could be the lexical combination "Father Superior" as attached to the Diocese's. And I'm unclear on whether OMI missions were part of diocesan governance; What's certain is that Kamloops Wawa is a publication of the diocese, I believe it's even right on the frontispiece, not of the OMI. He first fielded it from, I think, Coldwater at the OMI mission there. I don't have time to investigate and cite all this but points taken; if I see anything I'll link back here with it but I don't have time/energy to edit/expand the article. Skookum1 (talk) 10:55, 31 October 2014 (UTC)Reply