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VfD results edit
This article was nominated for deletion. The result was keep. For details, please see Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Manlike Woman the Indian prophetess of the Upper Columbia River. -- BD2412 talk 04:19, August 20, 2005 (UTC)
Franklin? edit
Re this:
- Thompson never gives the "Woman that carried a Bow and Arrows and had a Wife" any kind of name. It was Sir John Franklin who refers to her as "the Manlike Woman" in his Narrative of a Second Expedition to the Shores of the Polar Sea (1928), and suggests the label was one given to her by the native people she influenced. Since the lack of a name contributes to obscurity, "Manlike Woman" is pressed into service, here, as the best guess available. It also has the virtue of being shorter than Thompson's "Woman that carried a Bow and Arrows and had a Wife"
Where did Franklin meet her? I've never heard of him coming anyway near the region; is the assumption here that another "Man-Like Woman" he'd met in the Arctic was the same person? Could she have made it to Churchill (did he call in at Churchill?). Clarification please.Skookum1 (talk) 04:59, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
gender politics applied here is WRONG edit
I removed the imposition of male pronouns, which made for some weird language..."he...[had a reputation] as a prophetess" for one. Historical sources override bad interpretations of Wikipedia policy, I removed the inline comment claiming that nobody should change what has been imposed by modern abuse of language. The impositions of "him" and "he" and "his" were not even consistent within sentences, never mind with the actual source texts. Sources speak of her as female; it is NOT Wikipedia's job to rewrite history based on modern gender/language politics. To do so is fringe politics and a fringe theory.Skookum1 (talk) 16:23, 9 August 2014 (UTC)
More references edit
This article has been mentioned at Talk:Transgender history#Kaúxuma Núpika as a good candidate for inclusion at Transgender history, but the poor state of sourcing here is blocking that. Any contributions to improving the referencing at this article which would be much appreciated. Mathglot (talk) 01:42, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
- I had a go at revising the article a bit; basically, I wrote a very short bio in a sandbox based on references, and then incorporated it into this article, merging redundant bits and {{cn}}-tagging the parts of this article that had no inline references and were not reflected in the references I looked at. I may try to expand it / reference more of the existing article later. -sche (talk) 23:57, 28 May 2020 (UTC)