Talk:Kʼinich Yax Kʼukʼ Moʼ

Latest comment: 2 years ago by Thefamouseccles in topic K'inich in title

Dates

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How about some dates - even something approximate would greatly help! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 211.225.37.47 (talk) 06:17, 18 May 2008 (UTC)Reply

The article previously had "fl. 420s", I've updated that to indicate his rulership spanned from 426 up to (no later than) 437 CE, following Martin & Grube (2000) Chronicle of the Maya Kings and Queens. There are AFAIK no cotemporaneous dates for him, but are instead recorded some 300 years after the event (so his events shld be seen in that light, and his portraiture likewise). His birth date is not known, the accession date comes from Altar Q's foundational date for the Copan dynasty list. His date of death likewise is not known, according to Martin he saw in the transition to the tenth b'ak'tun (ie 9.0.0.0.0) in 435, but an inscription on the Xukpi Stone (437) indicates he had died by then. Cheers, --cjllw ʘ TALK 02:47, 19 May 2008 (UTC)Reply

Additional references

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Yax K'uk' Mo'’ article deserves more references; for example, I often find the following book being cited in the relevant literature: Robert J. Sharer, "K'inich Yax K'uk' Mo' and the Origins of the Classic Maya State in the Southeastern Lowlands". If someone here has read it, and "approved" it, please, add any relevant information from it to the article. Also, I think that more in-text footnotes about the current hypotheses concerning his origins are needed.
--Omnipedian (talk) 13:58, 10 October 2008 (UTC)Reply

K'inich in title

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Following on from a question I asked on the talk page for K'inich Janaab' Pakal, k'inich really should not be included in the page titles for Maya kings. K'inich was a title, not a name (source): it was generally the first part of the nominal phrase of a k'uhul ajaw. K'inich Yax K'uk' Mo' was only described as such after his accession to the rule of Copán, and simply bore the name K'uk' Mo' Ajaw. Rulers of other kingdoms aren't given with their titulary as part of the page title (see Elizabeth II, Mswati III, Ramesses V, etc.), so k'inich should be removed from page titles for all relevant Maya rulers, and appropriate titles simply given in the lede. Thefamouseccles (talk) 03:15, 29 November 2021 (UTC)Reply