Talk:Justin Gimelstob

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Controversy/Kournikova comments edit

The links and their associated comments suggest that his statement may be connected to the lady refusing his sexual advances!


Whatever the background, to hear an ATP Board of Directors member speaking in such a disrespectful fashion raises several important issues;
1. Violence. To deliberately target the body of an opponent with the intention to inflict injury rather than participating in genuine sporting activity is against both the letter and spirit of tennis.
2. Intimidation. Justin Gimelstob is six feet five inches tall and weights 195 pounds, while Anna Kournikova is five feet eight inches and weighs 120 [pounds. To use his physical advantages after publicly stating his deliberate intention to "hurt" her and make her "cry" is a clear case of intimidation.
3. Slander. The personal comments made about Anna Kournikova in a public forum, radio, would be sufficient to form the basis of legal action as slander.
4. Misogyny or Sexism. The use of the words "douche", "bitch" and "sexpot" clearly indicate a negative and distorted perception of women. How tennis authorities and commercial sponsors react to this episode should be interesting.
Dean Armond 17:59, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

  • I wouldn't say the term "douche" is sexist/misogynist... Fair point on the others, but I'm not sure what your point is. The article isn't to discuss the issues or raise personal opinions about the comments he made. Diliff | (Talk) (Contribs) 18:18, 28 June 2008 (UTC)Reply
  • I have inserted links to the terms "douche" and "bitch", given the context they appear sexist/misogynist as they are used to deliberately insult a woman. I was intrigued to see that after your comments another user has repeatedly tried to remove the "Controversy" section! Thank you to both Nappymonster and Ameliorate for reverting! I agree with you that the article is not to discuss the issues or raise personal opinions about the comments, my point is that they may be significant/important/relevant given his presence right now at Wimbledon as a commentator for the Tennis Channel, his participation as a player in the World Team Tennis contest (where he will play against Anna Kournikova in the future) and his recent success in joining the ATP Board of Directors. As the "Controversy" may still continue, I placed my comments in the discussion section rather in the article itself. Thank you for your observation and comments;
    Dean Armond 20:56, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
    • While some of the things he said were a bit misogynist, I still think the terms "douche" and "bitch" are only words that he called Kournikova.I don't think they are inherently misogynist - just generic insults. "douche" can equally be applied to a guy, and "bitch" just means a nasty female person - it doesn't demean females by definition any more than "asshole" demeans a guy (although I admit "asshole" doesn't refer to a male specfically, I couldn't think of an equivalent male terms, but hopefully you see what I mean), I don't think. But yeah, I do think the controversy section should stay. It has been quite notable. Diliff | (Talk) (Contribs) 17:18, 1 July 2008 (UTC)Reply

The name of this section has been changed and perhaps it is time to update the section. After making the comments Justin Gimelstob issued an unqualified apology via the WTT website. This followed his suspension by the WTT as a result of the comments that he made. Any thoughts?
Dean Armond 20:08, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

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