Talk:Jura regalia

Were Régales just Eclessiastical taxes or income?

Hard discussions are old about: 'Simony', purchasing with money positions in the Church, first case was: 'Simon the wizard' attempting to purchase the Holy Spirit from saint Peter; a man later considered saint, Domenico Loricato, he died in 1060, bitterly regretted that his family offered a goatskin to the bishops, he though it was buying addmitance into an order, and being consacrated. No need to remark the: 'price' was a bargain, around $100 today.

When the relatives of those in power in early middle ages where nominated for positions such as a: 'Canonry', what in fact they were granted was the revenues linked to that individual eclessial job, body, or building. Probably, many of these incomes came, either from some kind of a taxation on lay people, or from land property assigned to the Church; discussions about the reversion of these Church properties to the civilian power, then shaped as kingdoms, appeared in many places and times, saint Domingo de Silos -commemorated in dec 20-, had an argument with king Sancho Garcia, when the king seized the property he had previously handed to the monastery, in order to pay the war efforts against invaders, a peaceful attitude from the prior would have been: 'The king gave it to us, the king takes it from us', this is a bit same as Thomas Beckett's death after refusing to deliver to the civilian power, the king, a monk who was accused of an ordinary crime; of course, certain rights belong to the civilian power because of its nature, and the civil authority is in the condition to revert power assignments when situation makes it appropriate. I'd say the subject of: 'Régales', being just civilian authority income transferred to the eclessial body and persons, may deserve an specific study as a purely economical issue. Thanks, regards. Salut +--Hijuecutivo (talk) 10:46, 12 August 2017 (UTC)