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Controversial information in the solo career section

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In the solo career section, a "controversy" about the cost of a crowdfunding project is described. I believe that this information shouldn't be included because it comes from an online article of a journalist's personal opinion. As I understand the personal opinion on assumptions isn't a reliable source. ByBangYG (talk) 00:58, 15 April 2019 (UTC)Reply

There are two sources cited, the one particularly critical of Daehyun being the newspaper Munhwa Ilbo. If opinions were written in reliable sources were not acceptable, we could never include album and movie reviews. What assumption is being made here? The journalist deemed it excessive. That's not an assumption. Daehyun even addressed the issue and lamented having to take part in crowdfunding for his album. xplicit 07:16, 15 April 2019 (UTC)Reply


You're writing an article that should be objective based on 2 articles online where they cite opinions without giving names, talk about criticism by Internet users without citing the sources, compare ticket prices that offer different benefits as if they were the same, and they don't clarify that a percentage of money goes to foundations of needy people. An article with incomplete information, that doesn't name its sources, and that it's an isolated opinion can't be a reliable source. On the other hand, You mention that DaeHyun expressed his position on the subject. Please show me the source of his official statement. Finally, what is the purpose of including the comparison between 2 artists? It's assumed that according to that article the fans reacted positively to Bang for being authentic, however the project exceeded its goal by almost 400%. So the previous statement has no support. What is the purpose of including this type of information? ByBangYG (talk) 21:06, 15 April 2019 (UTC)Reply

You have a core misunderstanding of what constitutes a reliable source, and I suggest you read WP:RS to familiarize yourself. Minority opinions are not disqualified, especially simply because don't like what it says. He stated his position on crowdfunding (which he doesn't like) and expressed sympathy to his fans for putting them in a position to contribute to it (but had to because he has no company backing him) in this interview with with Kyunghyang Shinmun. The crowdfunding project was successful, that much is obvious since he was able to release his mini-album. He was also criticized for the excessive amount of contributions relative to the benefits. As this article states, the benefits for contributing ₩500,000 is being able to go to his concert when, according to this article, concert tickets generally cost ₩100,000 – ₩150,000. The other source, Munhwa Ilbo compares and contrasts them because they are former bandmates, and the journalist viewed one positively and the other negatively. I'm not sure where you're getting the idea that he was criticized by netizens, nothing like that is written on the page. xplicit 12:50, 16 April 2019 (UTC)Reply