Talk:July 1932 German federal election

Party name

Shouldn't it be "National Socialists" or something other more in line with the "official" name instead of the colloquial "Nazi Party" monicker? -- Nils Jeppe 08:45, 20 August 2005 (UTC)

Nils Jeppe I totally agree, but for some reason the hostile propaganda-term "Nazi" -- which members of the NSDAP never called themselves -- is standard on Wikipedia. Your Buddy Fred Lewis (talk) 08:15, 26 September 2014 (UTC)

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I think the picture has a place here, but don't know enough about the formalities to provide the rationale. Str1977 ^(talk) 12:16, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

Remove nonsense

I basically rewrote the background etc. sections, which were created and totally messed up by this edit. Problems were:

• an endless going-on about things not related to the parliamentary election e.g. the presidential elctions in detail, the SA ban (the lifting of which did not make the SA any more "legal" than it was before the ban occured only a few weeks earlier), the Preußenschlag (which was related in a most stupid way: "As a result Von Papen had the strongest political party, the Social Democrats, deposed." No, Papen deposed the SPD-led government in Prussia - the largest state - that had recently lost its majority but where no new government could be formed and assumed the administration himself. It proved a major blow for the Weimar Republic but it has absolutely zero to do with the election results.)
• false claims like
  • that two rounds in presidential election somehow shocked the Germans (it was perfectly normal and still is with similar systems, e.g. contemporary France)
  • that the July elections were the third parliamentary elections that year - in fact they were the first but they were premature (the schedule would have seen elections in 1934)
  • Papen was hugely unpopular (that much is correct) but he had no "his own faction" as he had left his party upon becoming chancellor (as he was deemed a traitor)
  • "Nazi control of the Reichstag was a culminating moment in the death of the Weimar Republic" - there was no Nazi control of the Reichstag until after Hitler had been appointed in January 1933 (and even then, in the March elections 1933 the Nazis failed to win a majority) - in July 1932 the Nazis merely became the largest party and according to custom and with the support of all Göring became President of the chamber, which gave him certain powers regarding procedure but nothing more.
• repeated going on about the failure of Weimar politicians and its system without giving any proper explanations
• uncritically using a man like Trotsky as a historical source
• constitutional nonsense like "Brüning ordered the President", "Hindenburg demanded his resignation" - no, Chancellor request of their head of state, they do not order. Presidents OTOH do not demand resignations, they simply dismiss.

I could go on. It is unsettling that this kind of diatribe could stand here for over a year. Str1977 ^(talk) 12:16, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

Wrong numbers

The "percentage of votes" numbers in the table are apparently slightly wrong, compared with the German WP article and its source (Stimmen und Sitzverteilung). The numbers given here seem to be the "percentage of seats", which are similar (thanks to the proportional representation system used) but not quite identical. This should be taken care of. --Roentgenium111 (talk) 18:12, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

Communists were anti-Republican? Please explain.

Communists were anti-Republican? Please explain this. It is unclear what is definition of "anti-republican" here.--5.228.251.235 (talk) 07:52, 26 September 2014 (UTC)

Anti-Republican means they were against the Weimar Republic, seeking to overthrow the democratic system. Wikipedia does not list their party policies, so I can not verify whether they held this as an actual policy though. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:8003:35A4:1900:E833:8F65:9B34:DC35 (talk) 05:19, 8 July 2017 (UTC)

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Color coding for Results chart is off

I'm not sure how to fix this but I noticed that the color coding for the Results chart is off. In the key the Center Party is coded as black when the chart shows Center Party seats in yellow. And German National People's Party is coded as blue when the chart shows them in black. The same issue is apparent at November 1932 German federal election and March 1933 German federal election (maybe elsewhere too but these are the ones I checked). Does anyone know how to fix this? Many thanks, Generalrelative (talk) 23:29, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

@Generalrelative: As per the discussion here, it looks like Julio974fr is planning to sort out this issue by uploading a revised set of diagrams. Cheers, Number 57 23:33, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Aha! That makes sense. Thanks for cluing me in. Generalrelative (talk) 23:35, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

@Number 57 and Julio974fr: I noticed that this still hasn't been done. Any updates? Thanks, Generalrelative (talk) 04:02, 8 May 2021 (UTC)

Yes, I apologise for procrastinating this, but I have some real-life stuff going on so I won't be able to post it until june. However, I've worked on a script to generate the parliament diagrams faster so everything should be ready to be uploaded at once as soon as the new color scheme is approved. Julio974◆ (Talk-Contribs) 07:03, 8 May 2021 (UTC)

Understood! Thanks for the update, and for doing this work. Generalrelative (talk) 13:39, 8 May 2021 (UTC)

Change leaders

Since Hitler and Thälmann were not members of the Reichstag shouldn't they be removed and replaced by the heads of the parties in the Reichstag? That is usually the case [1], [2], [3]. I think Goering was the head of the Nazis in the Reichstag and Ernst Torgler for the communists. Thoughts? 3Kingdoms (talk) 03:56, 8 May 2021 (UTC)