Talk:Jukdo (island)

Why I can NOT find this island on Google Maps? -- 220.111.66.6 15:37, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

See =those Ulleungdo detail maps

Usando has bamboo field and nearby Japan's fishieman's boat stoage. http://outdoor.geocities.jp/yabutarou01/4.html

Usando = Junkdo? possible

Some Korean scolor admitted Usando is Jukdo.also Kyuujangak map site explain Usando can be jukdo on the Korean Ullengdo's detail maps.

Head of Dokdo museum "It(usando) is Jukdo"

Tsukamoto Takashi,staff of Japan National Diet Library insist that the new evidence can be found only by the resident in Korea and It is enough to deny the claim by Korea Usando is dokdo, that especially the map discribed Hanjing Bamboo in the Map.

동북아역사재단은 “제시한 지도들은 국내 또는 일본의 학자들까지 모두 알고 있는 내용이지만 연대미상으로 발표하거나 지도의 일부만을 보여주면서 마치 처음으로 발견된 것처럼 꾸며낸 일본 측의 계략이다”고 말했다.

이승진 독도박물관장은 “고지도 3장을 확인해본 결과 누가 봐도 독도가 아닌 죽도이며 우리나라 학계에서도 죽도라고 판단하고 있는 것인데, 일본은 고지도의 전도를 보여주지 않고 확대하여 일부만 보여줌으로써 자신들의 억지주장을 은폐하고 있다”고 말했다.

"Hello, Your source is NOT that mean. Don't omit sentence from source. Why Do you omitted this sentence? Whatdamn (talk) 22:52, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Explanation of Yojido『輿地圖』鬱陵島(1736-67)奎章格 古4709-68 Usando, in the right side of the map, many people think it is Dokdo.But It also can be confirmed if Usando is most biggest island of Gwaneumdo or Jukdo.

Liacourt Rocks is also east side of Ulleungdo. Whatdamn (talk) 22:52, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Explanation of 『地乘』鬱陵島　奎 15423. Six island is discribed and the island labelled So-called Usando. These days it is insisted that Usando is JUKDO,adjunctive island of Ullunegdo though Usando was longly believed dokdo.

Original research. Whatdamn (talk) 22:52, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Explanation of 『朝鮮地圖』　鬱陵島(1750-1768.c.a.) 奎章閣 奎16030. The Usan(do) in the right side of the map could be big island of Today's Jukdo,located on east of Ulleungdo.

Liacourt Rocks is also east side of Ulleungdo. Whatdamn (talk) 22:52, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

first of all, Don't omitting sentence from source. After all, you cut and paste only convenient records for you. In old times, map making technology was not good. You think ancient Human could measure azimuth, direction, latitude, longtitude, sea distance exactly? It was impossible. nevertheless, Usando depicted as east side of Uleungdo. They do not say, Usando is Jukdo. all of are your presumption and original research. [1] [2] Whatdamn (talk) 22:52, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

References

Usando = Junkdo? impossible

Korean think Dokdo(Liancourt Rocks) is Usando.

Some Japanese claimed, Usando was not dokdo(Liancourt Rocks). Usando was Jukdo.

But It is Impossible claim.

According to Japanese document 元祿九丙子年朝鮮舟着岸一卷之覺書, Ahn Yong-Bok said, "Ulleungdo is about 30 ri from Korean peninsula, Dokdo(Liancourt Rocks) is about 50 ri from Ulleungdo." [3](in Korean)

In 15 century, Human could not measure sea distance exactly. But, Ahn Yong-Bok's mean, Dokdo(Liancourt Rocks) is very far distance from Ulleungdo.

      Ahn said :  Korea ~ Ulleungdo distance;30 ri < Ulleungdo ~ Dokdo(Liancourt Rocks) distance;50 ri

so, Ahn Yong-Bok refered Dokdo(Liancourt Rocks). Not Jukdo.

Jukdo is near rock of Ulleungdo. Distance is very close.(Actually, Jukdo is attached rock of Ulleungdo)

According to Japanese document 元祿九丙子年朝鮮舟着岸一卷之覺書, it is impossible that Jukdo was Usando.

Daehanjiji, metioned about Usando. Usando is introduced as Ulleungdo's sister island and it states "Usando is Southeast of that island Ulleungdo" This record as well as these are clear evidence that Usando does not refer to neither Jukdo Islet nor Gwaneumdo Islet as both of these are in northeastern positions. [4] —Preceding unsigned comment added by Whatdamn (talk • contribs) 14:59, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

In 1900, Korean Government Imperial Ordinance 41, Jukdo, Ulleung-do, Seok-do(Dokdo). 3 islands already incorporated to Ulleung province. Korea already Incorporated Jukdo in 1900.

so it is worthless theory that if Usando was Jukdo.

Whatdamn (talk) 22:43, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

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