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"leading actress" edit

Latest comment: 14 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion

Thank you for providing sources to show that "leading actress" is indeed held by more than one person at a newspaper. I do apologoize for the one edit where there was indeed a source cited at the end of the sentence which was obscured by the wikicoding when I viewed it; but I do not apologize for taking the weasel comment and assigning it to the source from which it came.-- The Red Pen of Doom 01:12, 11 August 2009 (UTC)Reply

I always feel "leading actor" is better than reigning queen, number one etc. Shahid • ^Talk2me 07:57, 11 August 2009 (UTC)Reply

Punjabi name edit

Latest comment: 12 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Her name written in Punjabi IS in fact needed. She is a punjabi, born in Punjab. It makes sense to write her name in Punjabi. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.22.85.174 (talk) 10:38, 12 December 2011 (UTC)Reply

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Date of birth edit

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"Juhi Chawla was born in Ambala, Haryana, India on 13th November although the year is uncertain" is in conflict with the lead and the infobox when 1967 is the year.--Johnsoniensis (talk) 08:55, 14 November 2017 (UTC)Reply

The article says:

Juhi Chawla was born on 13 November 1967, and raised in Ambala, Haryana, India.^[1]^[2]

References

^ "On Juhi Chawla's 54th birthday, Raveena Tandon, Sonakshi Sinha, Farah Khan pledge trees in her name". Mid Day. 14 November 2021. Archived from the original on 25 January 2022. Retrieved 21 March 2022.
^ "Actress Juhi Chawla turns 54: Fans take to Twitter to celebrate with tribute posts and wishes". Free Press Journal. 13 November 2021. Archived from the original on 21 March 2022. Retrieved 21 March 2022.

Mid Day, 14 Nov 2021 said that Juhi Chawla's 54th birthday was on Saturday, i.e. 13 November 2021. If correct, that would make her date of birth 13 November 1967.
Free Press Journal, 13 Nov 2021 said "Actress Juhi Chawla celebrates her 54th birthday today. was born on November 13, 1967, in Mumbai, India."
The Indian Express, 21 Aug 2015 said "She was all of 18 when she participated in the Miss India pageant and won it. Actress Juhi Chawla, now 47". Assuming that her birthday was 13 November, that would make her year of birth 1967.
Hindustan Times, 6 Mar 2023 says "Juhi Chawla was the winner of Miss India 1984 and later went on to participate in Miss Universe. She was only 18 years old." Assuming that the contest was before her birthday on 13 November, that would make her year of birth 1965 (or 1966 if the contest were held after her birthday in 1984).
India TV News, 13 Nov 2021 says that Juhi Chawla won Miss India in 1984 and that "Miss India Juhi Chawla was just 18 when she won the title." "The actress was just 18 when she won the beauty pageant in 1984. In the same year, she also won the Best Costume Award at the Miss Universe contest." Assuming that the contest was before her birthday on 13 November, that would make her year of birth 1965 (or 1966 if the contest were held after her birthday in 1984).

I think the citations for her winning Miss India 1984 at the age of 18 show that the claim that she was born in 1967 is implausible.-- Toddy1 (talk) 18:22, 15 November 2023 (UTC)Reply

This means the problem is with the last two sources saying she was 18 and not the ones giving her exact date of birth. I watched her interview where she said she was 16 actually. Both Hindustan Times and India TV sources come from the same entertainment desk, they do not even have a byline or attribution, it's just some poorly calculated number, which was circulated. Please reach consensus before removing sourced information all of a sudden. Shahid • ^Talk2me 23:01, 15 November 2023 (UTC)Reply

There it is, two sources from books have been added. I hope the balance between a random article from the entertainment desk of HT, which is a circulated story appearing in all newspapers, and books, is clear. Shahid • ^Talk2me 23:14, 15 November 2023 (UTC)Reply

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Lead deletion edit

Latest comment: 4 years ago6 comments3 people in discussion

@Priyamal21: Hi there, can you please clarify this re-removal, which, I note, you didn't discuss after the content was restored. What specifically are you objecting to here? While some of the content, like her being the highest-paid during XYZ years, are a little questionable, there are a number of claims I'm not sure should really be in dispute:

Do we doubt that she "made her acting debut in 1986 with Sultanat"?
Do we doubt that she received public recognition for Qayamat Se Qayamat Tak by winning a debutante Filmfare award?
Do we doubt that she's married to Jay Mehta?
Do we doubt that she's co-owner of the Kolkata Knight Riders? That's sourced below in the article.

There are a number of other claims that seem reasonable to include. If she's won Filmfare Awards, for instance, shouldn't we mention what she won those for? Also there are at least two sources in the article that have noted her comic timing, but mention of that has been scrubbed. While some of the unsourced hyperbolic language about her being regarded as ___ maybe reads a little press release-y, but some of the content that was deleted is either sourced below, or reasonably believed and potentially could be sourced. For instance this seems fairly comprehensive. While I understand that sometimes challenging poorly sourced material is necessary, and while I'm very sensitive to Wikipedia articles being used for promotion, I think that deleting the bulk of the lead was a bit much. We've gone from trying to describe the breadth of Chawla's 36-year career in a few paragraphs, to summing it up in a single sentence. That seems very odd to me. I'm not reverting, because I don't particularly want to get into a content dispute, but I think there are some reconsiderations I would hope you might make. Regards, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 03:18, 24 April 2020 (UTC)Reply

I restored the lead, the significant parts of which are sourced. Other than that, it includes essential information, all of which is sourced in the body, and it is an okay summary of the article; could be rewritten, but the article is well referenced, though that's another story anyway. I highly doubt the motives for removal are as cited by the user. Shahid • ^Talk2me 03:27, 24 April 2020 (UTC)Reply

Speaking of promotion, I chanced upon the Madhuri Dixit article, where other than the first sentence, the entire lead is unsourced, and had to clean up some excessive use of WP:PUFFERY and WP:FANCRUFT, incidentally by the same user who deleted the lead of the current article seemingly on WP:RS grounds. A talk page discussion started on that page, too. Shahid • ^Talk2me 04:06, 24 April 2020 (UTC)Reply

There was a lot of content which was unsourced: philanthropy, highest paid actress, critical acclaim. The user who added the lead didn't mention sources for this. Also, that had been reverted back a lot of times by other users too. Priyamal21 (talk) 04:28, 24 April 2020 (UTC)Reply

There are just no sources in the article, apart from BO verdicts of films since late 90s. Priyamal21 (talk) 04:30, 24 April 2020 (UTC)Reply

Incidentally, the user who wrote the lead back in 2019 was also me. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:MobileDiff/886343528 It was later removed by a user. Priyamal21 (talk) 04:38, 24 April 2020 (UTC)Reply

Sources edit

Latest comment: 2 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Rohatgi, Ritu (1 Nov 1992). "Shooting star". The Indian Express. Express Group. Retrieved 25 February 2022.
Filmfare 1998
Shahid • ^Talk2me 14:41, 25 February 2022 (UTC)Reply

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[1] "On Juhi Chawla's 54th birthday, Raveena Tandon, Sonakshi Sinha, Farah Khan pledge trees in her name". Mid Day. 14 November 2021. Archived from the original on 25 January 2022. Retrieved 21 March 2022.

[2] "Actress Juhi Chawla turns 54: Fans take to Twitter to celebrate with tribute posts and wishes". Free Press Journal. 13 November 2021. Archived from the original on 21 March 2022. Retrieved 21 March 2022.

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