Talk:Joya no Kane

Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: rejected by reviewer, closed by BorgQueen talk 07:21, 3 October 2023 (UTC)

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• ... that Japanese Buddhist temples ring their bells 108 times on New Year's Eve? Source: [1]: 「除夜の鐘は、大晦日の夜に各寺で撞かれるもので、回数はほとんどの寺で108回と決まっている。」 "Joya no Kane is an event that happens on New Year's Eve at each temple, and the number of times is generally fixed at 108."
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Moved to mainspace by AdJHu (talk). Self-nominated at 23:24, 9 August 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Joya no Kane; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

• This is my first DYK nomination, so I don't need to do a QPQ. QPQ Check AdJHu 胡 18:20, 15 August 2023 (UTC)

• Hi, welcome to DYK! According to WP:DYKCITE, "All content that could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose)." I see multiple paragraphs that do not have any in-line citation. Are you able to add them? Otherwise, the page is new enough and long enough. I know a little Japanese and I can see that the cited sources are about Joya no Kane, but I will "assume good faith" (AGF) that they contain the details they support. Because the information is translated from Japanese sources, I assume it is free of close paraphrasing.

• One thing I found confusing: "the founder Shinran Shonin did not think that sins were something that are paid for". Is Joya no Kane seen as a way to pay for sins? I see the "number of worldly sins" as a possible explanation for there being 108 rings of the bell, but nothing about it paying for sin.

• The hook is good and supported by the source cited in the DYK nomination. However, the fact needs an in-line citation in the body of the Wikipedia article. Please let me know if you have questions and I am happy to clarify. Rachel Helps (BYU) (talk) 21:50, 23 August 2023 (UTC)

• Hi, thanks for taking a look at this. Apologies for the delay, real life stuff is coming up. I will address your feedback once I have some time. AdJHu 胡 18:33, 29 August 2023 (UTC)

@AdJHu: Have you addressed the concerns? Is this ready for a re-review? Z1720 (talk) 14:45, 24 September 2023 (UTC)

• Nominator hasn't edited in weeks and also hasn't edited the article since August, so I guess we'll need to close this as stale. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:52, 3 October 2023 (UTC)