Talk:Jordan Valley Unified Water Plan

Latest comment: 15 years ago by NoCal100 in topic Irrelevancies removed

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I would recommend adding a couple more categories to this article, to put it in the proper geographical context. I'm not entirely sure which categories would be most appropriate, but I can check if no one else has any ideas. --Elonka 18:43, 19 December 2008 (UTC)Reply

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Jordan Valley Unified Water Plan

Lead sentence:-

//Though the plan was rejected by the Arab League, Israel and Jordan undertook to abide by their allocations under the plan.//

Sentences further down

//The Plan was accepted by the technical committees from both Israel and the Arab League. A discussion in the Knesset in July 1955 ended without a a vote//


//As well, Israel demanded more than doubling of its allocation, from 394 million m³ annually to 810 million m³.//

I can see how people seeing the contradictions in the article may just find the article as misleading and inaccurate...

However Israel extracted 650-720 million cubic metres from the upper Jordan and 70-100 million cubic metres from the Yarmuk a total of 720-820 million cubic metres annually or 193% the amount allocated under the Johnson plan while Jordan received 120 million cubic metres of water or 17% of its allocation under the Johnson plan.//Efraim Karsh (2003) Israel, the Hashemites and the Palestinians: The Fateful Triangle Routledge, ISBN 0714654345 p 177//

So how does that gel with NoCal100's statement in the article:-

//Both Jordan and Israel undertook to operate within their allocations, and two major successful projects were completed - the Israeli National Water Carrier and Jordan's East Ghor Main Canal.// Someone's undertakings seem to be have sent to and undertaker and buried!!!!!

//The state of Israel was proclaimed on 14 may 1948, the influx of Palestinian refugees into Jordan prompted the government to plan for the development of Jordan valley water resources to create jobs for an expanded population and provide for a basic livelihood...

The basic principle of the plan formulated by MacDonald and Partners for the Hashemite Kingdom in 1951 was adhered to by the Arab plan that followed. The firm asserted that “the principle, which to our minds has an undoubted moral and natural basis, is that the waters in a catchment area should not be diverted outside this area unless requirements of all those who use or genuinely intend to use the waters within the area have been satisfied//

Haddadin, Munther J. (2006) Water Resources in Jordan: Evolving Policies for Development, the Environment, and Conflict Resolution. Resources for the Future, ISBN 1933115327 p 238

which 'obviously' would have been included in reference [1] had Nocal100 not cherry picked to try for an inaccurate and misleading article....Ashley kennedy3 (talk) 08:52, 20 December 2008 (UTC)Reply

every single statement is sourced directly to sources cited. Israel exceed the quota 20 years after trhe plan had been rejected, and after it had capture teh west bank - along with its populatin and riparian right in the six day war. NoCal100 (talk) 14:57, 20 December 2008 (UTC)Reply

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FYI, this article is currently being considered for a "Did you know" banner on the Wikipedia mainpage. In order to be eligible, the article has to meet certain requirements, one of which is that it should not be the subject of disputes. To see the nomination discussion, check Template talk:Did you know#Articles created/expanded on December 15. --Elonka 18:07, 24 December 2008 (UTC)Reply


Irrelevancies removed edit

content dispute over inclusion of irrelevant lowdermilk...Lowdermilk is lowdermilk and not Johnston....Ashley kennedy3 (talk) 03:05, 27 December 2008 (UTC)Reply

These two plans (Lowdermilk and Ionides) were put forth as competing plans for water utilization in the region, I think they are relevant background. NoCal100 (talk) 16:08, 28 December 2008 (UTC)Reply