Talk:Jonathan Goudeau

Repeated edits by user KidAd

User KidAd repeatedly reverts edits without justification, other than vaguely citing policies. Does anyone object to providing the details he repeatedly reverts?Secarctangent (talk) 01:30, 6 May 2022 (UTC)

Your edits violate WP:NPOV and WP:UNDUE. The material is also poorly written. Per WP:ONUS, The onus to achieve consensus for inclusion is on those seeking to include disputed content. That means you. KidAd • SPEAK 01:33, 6 May 2022 (UTC)

You don't explain why. A drive-by assertion of violation is insufficient to explain any of this. I'm really happy to improve this, but you haven't explained how or why these violate these policies. Secarctangent (talk) 01:34, 6 May 2022 (UTC)

It doesn't matter if objections are "drive-by" or not. You must gain consensus if other editors take issue with your edits. That is how things work. KidAd • SPEAK 01:35, 6 May 2022 (UTC)

And what actually is your objection? I could go and do the same to a random edit you've just made, and you'd know just as much as I do about how to address your concerns. Secarctangent (talk) 01:36, 6 May 2022 (UTC)

Goudeau voted for and supports an extreme draft Louisiana state bill is gibberish. So we can start with the obvious proofreading issue. KidAd • SPEAK 01:39, 6 May 2022 (UTC)

I was trying to avoid a comma splice, but I reworded it. I also am happy to take out extreme, even though both the bill's supporters and opponents agree that it is a major shift in Louisiana state law if passed, and the bill's supporters explicitly cite as a feature of the bill that it is likely unconstitutional today, and let the bill speak for itself. Accordingly, I removed the tag you had put in querying that adjective as it's no longer present. Secarctangent (talk) 01:45, 6 May 2022 (UTC)

Using the word "extreme" in WP:WIKIVOICE violates WP:NPOV unless it is stated explicitly in a reliable source. KidAd • SPEAK 01:47, 6 May 2022 (UTC)

Can you point me to where that is in either policy? A Ctrl+F for "extreme" isn't turning it up. Or is this in your opinion covered by a more general aspect of these policies within? Secarctangent (talk) 01:54, 6 May 2022 (UTC)

Just read WP:WIKIVOICE. The rule of thumb is that Wikipedia says what reliable sources say. If a reliable source calls something “extreme” or “disproven” or “false,” then Wikipedia must do the same. But editors CANNOT syntesize reliable sources and come to their own conclusions. That is a violation of WP:NPOV KidAd • SPEAK 02:05, 6 May 2022 (UTC)