Talk:Join, or Die

Superstition?

There is no source given for "During that era, there was a superstition that a snake which had been cut into pieces would come back to life if the pieces were put together before sunset.". It seems like an unlikely superstition in a society where it would be easy to try out. I suggest the sentence be documented or deleted. rewinn 01:35, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Would this or this do? --EvaGears 01:51, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

It's not entirely superstition: http://www.anapsid.org/decap.html http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZyrKaxnzcU (don't click if you're squeamish) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.167.60.95 (talk) 07:23, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

NO ONE USE WIKIPEDIA AS A RELIABLE SOURCE PPPLLLLLLZZZZZ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.12.249.79 (talk) 22:11, 7 October 2020 (UTC)

What is it?

Woodcut ? etching? - come on guys Johnbod 03:07, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

I would guess that the original version was on wood... AnonMoos 04:14, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Given this is supposed to be an encyclopedia, it would be good if someone could actually check it up and add to the article. Johnbod 15:07, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

No, probably drawn on paper.--Jasminekellis21 (talk) 16:46, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

In the 18th century, a "drawing on paper" could not be multiply reproduced by mechanical methods. It needed to be made into a woodcut, copper engraving, etc. It wasn't until the late 19th century that an artist could produce a (monochrome) artwork by any method, and have that be automatically reproduced in the printing process without having to go through an engraver first... AnonMoos (talk) 18:06, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Lamb of God

The band Lamb of God have a shirt using this cartoon. Should it be included? BrainRotMenacer 23:31, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

 If it is, it belongs in that article, not this one.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.167.60.95 (talk) 07:26, 15 November 2009 (UTC) 

Please try to translate this article

I wish someone would see the ligth to translate it into one of the European Union to see that the union would be better for all than the actions that are taking place nowdays with the Lisbon Treaty. Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Monturiul (talk • contribs) 16:17, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

File:Benjamin Franklin - Join or Die.jpg to appear as POTD soon

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Picture of the day

"Join, or Die", a 1754 editorial cartoon by Benjamin Franklin, a woodcut showing a snake severed into eight pieces, with each segment labeled with the initials of a British American colony or region (not all colonies are represented). It was originally about the importance of colonial unity against France during the French and Indian War, and re-used in the years ahead of the American Revolution to signify unity against Great Britain.Restoration: Adam Cuerden

Colin Moriarty?

Is how funny Colin Moriarty is relevant? What is he a co-founder of? Stelith61 (talk) 02:40, 14 May 2016 (UTC)

could we add a link to P. Diddy's 'Vote, or die' campaign.

is that homage to this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Riskshelm (talk • contribs) 12:59, 19 May 2016 (UTC)

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Unite or Dead reference.

Unite or Die versions of the JOIN, or DIE. cartoon have been located. Can someone direct me to a Unite or Dead version? WLHistoryKid (talk) 10:46, 24 March 2018 (UTC)

Sentence about French/Indian War is wrong

On March 12th 2019 the article contained this sentence: "Also known as the French and Indian War, the Seven Years' War was a war (and choice) for the colonies against Britain, France, and their native allies." This sentence has many problems. Some of it is factually wrong. Some of it is meaningless. When a war is "for" something, what follows the "for" is the objective of one of the belligerents: the War For Independence, etc. Wars are not "for" one of the parties. Furthermore, the colonies were not one side with Britain, France, and their native allies on the other side. Honestly. Who wrote that? The colonies fought in this war simply because at the time they were part of the United Kingdom (a.k.a. "Britain"). Britain and France were NOT on the same side. Finally, there is "war (and choice)" which a phrase utterly lacking in encyclopedic meaning. At some level, any war is a choice. At some other level, any war is coerced. It depends on how you define "choice". Under the assumption that it is imperative that one's population not be enslaved, one could regard a war as forced. But it could be argued that the same war is "chosen" because it could have been avoided by accepting the enslavement of the population. Since this is a gray area for ALL wars, the phrase "(and choice)" smacks of cheap editorializing. But if anything it wasn't a choice for the colonies since as part of the U.K. the colonies would fight in the U.K.'s wars until becoming independent.74.64.104.99 (talk) 04:41, 13 March 2019 (UTC)Christopher L. Simpson

Fallout 4 anecdote is low-quality

Under the Legacy header, there is the following sentence:

"All throughout the game Fallout 4 these posters can be found in buildings with no real context."

The line "all throughout the game Fallout 4" reads poorly and the "no real context" is an unnecessary opinion. Consider deleting the line or someone with knowledge of the game rewriting. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.244.55.33 (talk) 21:25, 15 November 2019 (UTC)