Talk:Johnny Owen/GA1
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Reviewer: Lee Vilenski (talk · contribs) 09:41, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
Hello, I am planning on reviewing this article for GA Status, over the next couple of days. Thank you for nominating the article for GA status. I hope I will learn some new information, and that my feedback is helpful.
If nominators or editors could refrain from updating the particular section that I am updating until it is complete, I would appreciate it to remove a edit conflict. Please address concerns in the section that has been completed above (If I've raised concerns up to references, feel free to comment on things like the lede.)
I generally provide an overview of things I read through the article on a first glance. Then do a thorough sweep of the article after the feedback is addressed. After this, I will present the pass/failure. I will use strikethrough tags when concerns are met. Even if something is obvious why my concern is met, please leave a message as courtesy.
Best of luck! you can also use the {{done}} tag to state when something is addressed. Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs)
Please let me know after the review is done, if you were happy with the review! Obviously this is regarding the article's quality, however, I want to be happy and civil to all, so let me know if I have done a good job, regardless of the article's outcome.
Immediate Failures edit
It is a long way from meeting any one of the six good article criteria
-It contains copyright infringements
-It has, or needs, cleanup banners that are unquestionably still valid. These include{{cleanup}}, {{POV}}, {{unreferenced}} or large numbers of {{citation needed}}, {{clarify}}, or similar tags. (See also {{QF-tags}}).
-It is not stable due to edit warring on the page.
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Links edit
Prose edit
Lede edit
- Lede is a little underlinked. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 19:03, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
- Link for George Sutton (boxer) Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 19:03, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
- No article for Welsh bantamweight championship? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 19:03, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
- Link to List of British bantamweight boxing champions Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 19:03, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
- All of the title belts are surely notable? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 19:03, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
- 120 fights and representing Wales. - How so? Surely he's Welsh, so would defacto represent Wales. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 19:03, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
- Almería should be noted as being in Spain. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 19:03, 8 April 2020 (UTC) - Added
- The lede should probably go into more detail about the death, legacy, and probably mention his 25-2-1 record. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 19:03, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
- Where is his heigh cited in the body? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 19:03, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
General edit
- Johnny Owen was born John Richard Owens - do we need to mention both names here? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 19:26, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
- Given that he fought under pseudonym, a slight one admittedly, I thought it prevalent to begin the article with his full birth name, similar to Muhammad Ali, Sugar Ray Robinson etc. Kosack (talk) 12:31, 10 April 2020 (UTC)
- Underlinking is an issue in the body as well as the lede. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 19:26, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
- Penwaunfawr is a populated place, so should be redlinked. Surprised there's no article. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 19:26, 8 April 2020 (UTC) - Linked
- 12 Heol Bryn Selu on Gellideg housing estate - is that an exact address. I think this goes past our scope for biographies. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 19:26, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
- Could you link box. I realise it's an article on boxing, but it's still worth doing, especially as box has other meanings. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 19:26, 8 April 2020 (UTC) - Linked
- Amateur boxing could be higher in the section Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 19:26, 8 April 2020 (UTC) - Moved
- His record was strong but not without blemish - we shouldn't be stating this, unless a quote. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 19:26, 8 April 2020 (UTC) - Trimmed
- MOS:FLAG says we shouldn't have flags without some sort of WP:ACCESS info for them. I'd remove the ones for the locations (as it's flag-cruft, and change the flagicon to {{flagathlete}}. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 19:26, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
- The way you've done single linking is very weird. WP:OL doesn't say that you can't link every entry in a table, but if you don't, at least do it from top to bottom (actually, why isn't the table in chronilogical order?). Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 19:26, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
GA Review edit
- It is reasonably well written.
- It is factually accurate and verifiable.
- a (reference section): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism):
- a (reference section): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism):
- It is broad in its coverage.
- a (major aspects): b (focused):
- a (major aspects): b (focused):
- It follows the neutral point of view policy.
- Fair representation without bias:
- Fair representation without bias:
- It is stable.
- No edit wars, etc.:
- No edit wars, etc.:
- It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
- a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
- a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
- Overall:
- Pass/Fail:
- Pass/Fail:
Comments edit
- Automated note - If you fancy returning the favour, I have outstanding GA nominations that require reviewing at WP:GAN. I'd be very grateful if you were to complete one of these, however it's definitely not mandatory. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs)
- I've added some basic points above. I would like to see some additional links, and a bit more added to the lede. - on hold. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 19:27, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
- @Lee Vilenski: Thanks for the review Lee, I've responded to all of the comments above. Let me know what you think. Kosack (talk) 18:55, 10 April 2020 (UTC)
- Apologies, I forgot to close this one. Great job. Promoting. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 10:35, 23 April 2020 (UTC)