Talk:John le Carré

second wife Alison as collaborator and de facto editor

This Guardian article by their son Nick Cornwell says that his parents formed a writing team for their fifty years together. I think reference to this is worthy of inclusion & suspect it may feature in future biography.

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2021/mar/13/my-father-was-famous-as-john-le-carre-my-mother-was-his-crucial-covert-collaborator

Mattymmoo (talk) 12:13, 13 March 2021 (UTC)

Bibliogragraphy

We'd already acheived consensus long ago that This author's novels should be listed chrinologically. The current categories are untenable and absurd. TheScotch (talk) 20:13, 6 January 2022 (UTC)

Agreed. The only novels that can be meaningfully grouped are those in the Smiley Versus Karla trilogy. Easthillian (talk) 06:25, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

Irish Author ?

--— ⦿⨦⨀Tumadoireacht ^Talk/_Stalk 08:48, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

I don’t think Irish alone is the proper descriptor to define someone who only possibly had changed citizenship for the last year of his almost 90 years, is thought of as English, wrote about the British spy service, and only has his son’s word to confirm that he actually had his application approved. I totally support giving the vees where appropriate but this does not feel like the spot based on both perception and actual fact. Also definitely do not think of describing him as Anglo-Irish, because that means something entirely different. ExtravagAunt (talk) 07:25, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

According to the encyclopaedia Britannica, John Le Carré was English.Halbared (talk) 19:22, 2 August 2022 (UTC)

https://www.britannica.com/biography/John-le-Carre

According to the man himself, he refers to himself as 'Englishman.'Halbared (talk) 19:34, 2 August 2022 (UTC)

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/25/books/review/john-le-carre-ben-macintyre-british-spy-thrillers.html

Tolkien wrote about elves, doesn’t mean he’s Sindarin.

You’re making emotional arguments. The man had Irish citizenship, that makes him objectively Irish as a matter of fact. The words he said in interviews years ago or the matters he wrote about will never change that.

Citizenship = nationality on the lead line is consistent across Wikipedia.

It’s a settled matter Musicisdeadon (talk) 13:18, 24 August 2022 (UTC)

First Novel?

In the 'Work in security services' section it says "Encouraged by Lord Clanmorris (who wrote crime novels as "John Bingham"), and while being an active MI5 officer, Cornwell began writing his first novel, Call for the Dead (1961)"

But in one of The Pigeon Tunnel or John le Carré: The Biography, (I've not got either to hand) it says Call for the Dead wasn't the first novel he wrote, it was the first he got published. A Murder of Quality was written first.--Shimbo (talk) 18:40, 5 August 2024 (UTC)