Talk:John Wick: Chapter 3 – Parabellum

Budget information

An IP editor has just removed the budget information for the film. Could someone add this back into the Production section and the Infobox after verifying the numbers. CodexJustin (talk) 15:50, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

Gender of the Adjudicator

The actor who portrayed the Adjudicator is non-binary and favors they/them, and unless I'm forgetting, I don't think the Adjudicator was referred to as a woman by anyone in the film. Should it stay "she," be changed to a gender-neutral pronoun, or should the plot synopsis just be written so that no pronouns are used for them? Tutwater (talk) 01:22, 19 May 2019 (UTC)

We don't generally assume a character's gender based on the actor's real-world gender identity. Cisgender women often play men and vice versa, and Dillon appears to have played women on several occasions, probably more than non-binary roles and certainly more than male roles. Not having seen the film I can neither confirm nor deny the claim that the character is not explicitly gendered, but given the above I don't think we can assume the character to be non-binary. Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 11:17, 20 May 2019 (UTC)

The following Inverse interview confirms that the Adjudicator is non-binary, and Dillon uses "their" and "they" in reference to them. I'll go ahead and remove "she" from Plot- if this needs to be sourced or go under Production, feel free to cite the above interview. Tutwater (talk) 17:16, 20 May 2019 (UTC)

The problem with that is that if it is in the plot section, a note will need to be added. Even the article on Dillon clarifies that they are non-binary and use the singular they. Introducing the character as being non-binary in the cast section is insufficient to justify using singular they in the previous section without comment, and your change makes it look like the "they" refers to the assassins. Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 23:21, 20 May 2019 (UTC)

So even a production source explicitly calling the character by the singular "they" isn't sufficient reason to use the same pronoun in the plot synopsis? The way I phrased it was confusing, though, and it's much better just not using pronouns at all. Tutwater (talk) 1:29, 21 May 2019 (UTC)

So even a production source explicitly calling the character by the singular "they" isn't sufficient reason to use the same pronoun in the plot synopsis? Not unless that production source is explicitly cited in-line where the pronoun in question is used, no. The plot summary (a) must consist exclusively of content that is clear from a plain viewing of the film itself, or (b) must cite secondary sources like my Tenjin no Honji or Matsuranomiya Monogatari articles. It is not allowed to contain content gleaned from secondary sources cited on the article talk page, retrieved after the fact because of outside knowledge of the gender identity of the actor who played the character (especially when the said actor has historically played mostly female-gendered roles with names like "Homeless woman", "Line Lady #1", and "Bald Girl"). Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 05:26, 21 May 2019 (UTC)

Opening weekend gross to top Endgame's fourth weekend

It's not a foregone conclusion yet, but I think if it comes to pass that this is the film to break the streak it should probably be mentioned. Charting With Dan on Monday (California time) is almost certain to mention it anyway. Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 02:29, 19 May 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 19 May 2019

John Wick’s name is incorrect and the plot has too many "He"'s in it. 80.2.20.47 (talk) 18:51, 19 May 2019 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. – Þjarkur (talk) 20:51, 19 May 2019 (UTC)