Talk:John Stevens, Baron Stevens of Kirkwhelpington

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There is a useful biography of John Stevens at the London Metropolitan Police site: http://www.met.police.uk/about/stevens.htm

The Metropolitan Police gagged the Leveson Inquiry over claims that one of Blair's top officers sold secrets to the News of the World

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/the-met-gagged-leveson-inquiry-over-

claims-that-one-of-blairstop-officers-sold-secrets-to-the-news-of-the-world-
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Timing: Lord Justice Leveson was unable to refer to bombshell report Tom Harper

20 May 2013

The Met "gagged" the Leveson Inquiry from revealing intelligence that a very senior former police officer passed on sensitive information to the News of the World, the Standard reveals today.

The force claimed a "public interest immunity certificate" to ban the disclosure of a report that alleged the officer was obtaining highly confidential information on decisions taken by Lord Blair when he was Commissioner.

The classified document, which the Met withheld from the Leveson Inquiry until after it could have been usefully raised in the public hearings, suggested the officer — who is not named for legal reasons — passed the leak on to the tabloid for money.

When it was finally passed to the inquiry, Scotland Yard claimed "public interest immunity" which prevented Lord Justice Leveson from referring to it in public or considering it for the conclusions in his landmark report into inappropriate relationships between the press and police — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.190.38.46 (talk) 04:26, 25 May 2013 (UTC)

Is Stevens a freemason ?

anyone know ?

He mentions in his autobiography that he "wasn't" a freemason when some of his team were. Not sure what to make of that. ;) It's a good read, by the way.

Lord Stevens

He is often called "Lord Stevens" and sometimes "Sir Stevens" - can references explaining this (I think Barons can also be called Lord and Sir) be placed in the article, please. Thanks. Carcharoth 15:48, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

No, I am afraid it is incorrect for Barons, or any peers above that rank, to be called "Sir". It is a fairly vulgar mistake to use the prefix of a knight ["Sir"] to punctuate the surname. It is always the first name and second name that formulates the title. John Stevens was made a Knight Bachelor, and his legal name then became "Sir John Stevens." He was elevated to the peerage as a life baron in 2005, and then became Lord Stevens of Kirkwhelpington," which can justifiably be shortened, for efficacy, to "Lord Stevens" but never "Lord John Stevens".

If you were addressing him whilst still a knight, or making reference to him you would call him "Sir John", but whilst a Baron, you would say "Lord Stevens of Kirkwhelpington" or more likely "Lord Stevens."

To become a peer means all previously acquired honorific prefixes [such as Sir or Dame] take secondary precedence to one's noble title, and he would not therefore be Sir John Stevens, Lord Stephens of Kirkwhelpington" - the inclusion of post nominals letters will signify these previously acquired distinctions. This rule does not however carry over to some offices, such as Field Marshall, or Admiral of the Fleet, or Professorial distinctions, for example Professor The Earl Russel; doctorates are typically are not included, although there is the interesting exception of Dr The Lord Gilbert, a Labour life peer, who uses that style.--Jason Hughes 17:56, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

Chief Constable of the Metropolitan Police

I feenl the article is very thin on Steven's career as Chief Constable of the Met. This is a high profile job,and one would hope to find more here about his influence on the force and his influence on his senior officer colleagues in operational term, and in terms of the actual business of policing the metropolis. While he had many admirers as Chief Constable it is well known that he was a difficult man to work for and with, and he had his critics and detractors. Geoff Powers (talk) 13:05, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

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