Talk:John Komnenos Asen/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Rcej (Robert) - talk 02:24, 19 April 2011 (UTC)

Hello again :) Nice work! Just a few issues to deal with: *Mention John's wife and children 'schmeel' in the lead. ;)

• Since Stephen Dušan figures somewhat prominently in John's saga, may we fit File:CarDusan.jpg into the article wherever?
• Clarify how Stephen Uroš is related to both Simeon Uroš and Stephen Dušan.
• In section Relations with Venice and independence:

• sentence "Even though all of these documents were written in Slavic, John signed his name in Greek, which testifies to his Hellenisation."

• Curious; was John Hellenized just as it was commonplace for men in his position, or was it agenda-specific for him?

• paragraph "Bulgarian historian Hristo Matanov conjectures that after 1355, John may have minted his own coinage intended for trade with partners outside the inner Balkans. He bases this theory on a new reading of several Latin-language coin inscriptions as Monita despoti Ioanni instead of Monita despoti Oliveri, as previously thought. The new reading was proposed by Yugoslav numismatist Nedeljković, who rejects the initial attribution of these coins to Jovan Oliver."

• What is the significance of those particular coin inscriptions; how would they associate/dissociate John with the coins' minting? -- Rcej (Robert) - talk 06:22, 19 April 2011 (UTC)

Hi again, glad to be working with you on this one! I've done points one and three.

• I don't think a portrait of Stephen Dušan would contribute much to the article. I like to avoid including portraits of other people in shorter biographies because I think that even if the reader has read the caption, they would still wrongly associate the image with the identity of the article subject somehow, at least it's what I do. Also, it doesn't seem to be a common practice for other vassals of Stephen Dušan.
• I find John's apparent Hellenisation rather curious as well. His brother became Bulgarian emperor, his sister became Serbian empress and his main economic ties were with the Latin city-states of the Adriatic, Venice and Ragusa. I suppose his Hellenisation may be linked with some influence by his wife, who was of Byzantine royal descent. It must have been a matter of prestige to him as well, to call himself Komnenos and sign his name in Greek. It is quite puzzling nevertheless... at the time, Byzantium was weak and he seemingly had little to do with its affairs, which at the time were rather detached from his domains.
• As for the coins: if they had John's name on them, it would be quite clear that he minted them. In the medieval Balkans, minting coins was a sign of significant economic and political power and besides actual rulers, few people could afford to do this.

Best, — Toдor Boжinov — 11:49, 19 April 2011 (UTC)

Very good! Until next time :) Rcej (Robert) - talk 05:21, 20 April 2011 (UTC)

Thank you! — Toдor Boжinov — 07:22, 20 April 2011 (UTC)

Results of review

GA review (see here for criteria)

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The article John Komnenos Asen passes this review, and has been promoted to good article status. The article is found by the reviewing editor to be deserving of good article status based on the following criteria:

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose): b (MoS):

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects): b (focused):

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars, etc.:

6. It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.

   a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

7. Overall:

   Pass/Fail: Pass