Talk:John I of Sweden

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Halldórr skvaldri

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"Skáldatal gives Einarr Skúlason and Halldórr skvaldri as two of John's court skalds."

Skáldatal also gives Halldórr as one of Magnus Barefoot's skalds. Since Magnus died in 1103 and Jón was born in 1201, Halldórr must have lived to a very old age... Sigo 17:11, 11 November 2007 (UTC)Reply

Jon Jarl was probably not John I of Sweden (born 1201), but this does not really solve the chronology of Skaldatal. /Pieter Kuiper 18:25, 11 November 2007 (UTC)Reply

Jon Jarl was probably Sörkvir Kolsson's eldest son. I don't see any other problem with the chronology of Skáldatal. Sigo 21:31, 11 November 2007 (UTC)Reply

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– Per WP:COMMONNAME. Both share the same name, but the king is the primary topic.

The Google Books search for "Johan Sverkersson" returns much more results than for "John I" Sweden 1222, and the results also include good-quality books from Brill and Cambridge University Press.
The article about the son of Sverker the Elder was originally created as Johan Sverkersson the elder and moved to current title without discussion. Per WP:UE the name should not be anglicized since the anglicized name is not used in the literature. In fact, there is not much English literature about him at all; I only found two mentions: Philip Line refers to him as Johan Sverkersson and Lars O. Lagerqvist as Johan (jarl Jon). The title could also be Johan (son of Sverker the Elder), Johan Sverkersson (12th century) or Johan Sverkersson the Elder, although the last one is not attested in English literature.

— Jähmefyysikko (talk) 07:53, 4 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

Oppose Not an improvement & practically impossible to pronounce for non-Swedes. Fine as is. --SergeWoodzing (talk) 10:41, 4 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

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