Talk:John Hull (merchant)

Latest comment: 1 year ago by CoatGuy2 in topic Problematic claims on this page

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Problematic claims on this page edit

There are a few claims that need to be deleted if they cannot be properly sourced.

1) The sentences "Records indicate that on June 4, 1683, the mint was operational. 'Articles against the Governor and Company of Massachusetts. 1. They have coined money with their own impress...'" are problematic. The quote comes from a primary source and the sentence "Records indicate that on June 4, 1683, the mint was operational" seems to be an original interpretation of that source (and an incorrect one as well). The peer-reviewed Valeri paper directly contradicts this claim. He says that the mint ceased operations by 1682.

2) The historical marker database doesn't say anything about Hull's operation being the same location as a J.C. Penny or C.F. Hovey department store. I haven't been able to find sources to verify this claim.

3) The claim that Hull devoted "all of his time and most of his fortune to the public service of the colony" is also directly contradicted by Valeri. I have also not found any sources that verify the claim "Hull personally financed the only military resistance which could be effectively raised [during King Philip's War]. He was never repaid."

Also, I have made number of corrections to factual inaccuracies with dates and other info, such as the implication that the Hull mint is in any way related to the U.S. Federal mint or the claim that Hull, MA, is named for John Hull. Please do not revert sourced corrections without discussing here first. CoatGuy2 (talk) 15:14, 23 February 2023 (UTC)Reply

Going through the page history, I also see that someone has repeatedly tried to remove claims about Hull’s involvement in the slave trade. There are reliable sources (Clarke and the report on slavery at Harvard) that cannot be ignored/erased on this matter. CoatGuy2 (talk) 17:43, 23 February 2023 (UTC)Reply