Talk:John Cameron of Fassiefern

Latest comment: 7 years ago by PBS in topic Incorrect arms

Incorrect arms

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Most of the blazon is under the “Symbolism” heading instead of where it would seem to belong, and moreover it describes the armiger’s first matriculation, registered in 1814. According to Balfour’s Ordinary there was a second matriculation in 1815, when the laurel wreaths were replaced with the badges of the Portuguese Order of the Tower & Sword and the Ottoman Order of the Crescent, respectively the dexter and sinister. And of course the illustration, being an emblazonment of the undifferenced Lochiel arms, is inappropriate: it should be removed until a correct depiction (hideous Georgian “landscape heraldry“ though it may be) can be supplied.—Odysseus1479 22:26, 19 July 2015 (UTC)Reply

I agree that the chiefly arms doesn't belong in this article and is misleading. I checked the cited Burke's Genealogical and Heraldic History of Peerage [1]. It doesn't actually state that John Cameron was granted arms (by Lyon or anyone else). The blurb is actually about Duncan, whose father was created baronet on account of John. Is there a source showing that John actually possessed a coat of arms? I think I saw somewhere that he was granted a crest.--Brianann MacAmhlaidh (talk) 00:53, 4 March 2017 (UTC)Reply
Here we go. These link him with a crest: The London Gazette: 3 June 1815 (page 1041 and page 1042), and 6 June 1815 (page 1076).--Brianann MacAmhlaidh (talk) 01:15, 4 March 2017 (UTC)Reply
Well done finding those. I am adding the second citation to the article (page 1076), simply because it appear on one page and makes the citation easier to read -- PBS (talk) 20:18, 4 March 2017 (UTC)Reply