Talk:John Boyden
Latest comment: 3 years ago by Theleekycauldron in topic Did you know nomination
 | A fact from John Boyden appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 22 November 2021 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:
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Did you know nomination
edit- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Theleekycauldron (talk) 06:47, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
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- ... that after his September 2021 death John Boyden was revealed to be the first music correspondent of Private Eye, writing under the pseudonym "Lunchtime O'Boulez"? "We report with regret the death at the age of 85 of John Boyden, the Eye's original musical correspondent Lunchtime O'Boulez" from: "John Boyden". Private Eye. No. 1559, page 19. Pressdram. 29 October 2021.
ALT1: ... that John Boyden established his own orchestra after becoming dismayed by the level of post-recording editing employed in the industry? "John Boyden had tired of orchestras all sounding the same. Similarly, he noticed that every minor error, cough and slipped note was being edited out of their recordings. By reviving the New Queen's Hall Orchestra (NQHO), an ensemble that had existed in the early 20th century, he set out to reverse what he felt was an undue emphasis on technical precision at the expense of musical expression." from: "John Boyden; Maverick orchestral director who believed in spontaneity above precision and joined the LSO during a turbulent period". The Times. 27 October 2021.
Moved to mainspace by Dumelow (talk). Self-nominated at 12:08, 1 November 2021 (UTC).
- Starting the review shortly. Ktin (talk) 01:42, 2 November 2021 (UTC)
| General: Article is new enough and long enough |
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| Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems |
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Hook eligibility:
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- Offline/paywalled citation accepted in good faith - Interesting:
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- Feedback on ALT1 added in notes section.
| QPQ: Done. |
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Article meets eligibility criteria - newness and length. Assuming WP:AGF on the sources. The entire article is sourced to three references of which one is available online. Dumelow, I will WP:AGF. If you have a way to share the sources I can have a look as well. Earwig's Copyvio is turning up 0%. ALT0 looks good. ALT1 however, might be a tad misleading. Happy to hear the article author's view on this one. The source as quoted says Boyden revived the NQHO, while the hook says established their own orchestra. QPQ is done. Passing this back to the nominator. Ktin (talk) 01:51, 2 November 2021 (UTC)
- Hi Ktin, thanks for the review. Do you have access to the WP:LIBRARY? If so the Times article is available via Gale. If not, drop me an email and I will reply with the text of the article. I can also send you a photo of the article from Private Eye. The NQHO dissolved in the 1940s and Boyden refounded it in the 1990s, in that sense it is effectively a "new" orchestra but happy to consider alternative suggestions for ALT1, or for ALT0 to run instead - Dumelow (talk) 06:42, 2 November 2021 (UTC)
- @Dumelow:, thanks. I will check this one out later this evening. Ktin (talk) 15:41, 2 November 2021 (UTC)
- @Dumelow:, managed to access The Times via WP:LIBRARY Gale. Thanks. If it is alright with you, I will mark ALT0 as approved. I am on the fence re: ALT1's reviving vs establishing his own opera. Everything else looks good. Let me know. Cheers. Ktin (talk) 02:09, 4 November 2021 (UTC)
- Hi Ktin, yes I am fine with alt0. I think rewording alt1 to include "refounding" or similar will be too awkward - Dumelow (talk) 05:52, 4 November 2021 (UTC)
Approving ALT0. Ktin (talk) 14:37, 4 November 2021 (UTC)
- Hi Ktin, yes I am fine with alt0. I think rewording alt1 to include "refounding" or similar will be too awkward - Dumelow (talk) 05:52, 4 November 2021 (UTC)
- @Dumelow:, managed to access The Times via WP:LIBRARY Gale. Thanks. If it is alright with you, I will mark ALT0 as approved. I am on the fence re: ALT1's reviving vs establishing his own opera. Everything else looks good. Let me know. Cheers. Ktin (talk) 02:09, 4 November 2021 (UTC)
- @Dumelow:, thanks. I will check this one out later this evening. Ktin (talk) 15:41, 2 November 2021 (UTC)
- Hi Ktin, thanks for the review. Do you have access to the WP:LIBRARY? If so the Times article is available via Gale. If not, drop me an email and I will reply with the text of the article. I can also send you a photo of the article from Private Eye. The NQHO dissolved in the 1940s and Boyden refounded it in the 1990s, in that sense it is effectively a "new" orchestra but happy to consider alternative suggestions for ALT1, or for ALT0 to run instead - Dumelow (talk) 06:42, 2 November 2021 (UTC)
