Talk:Joe Mercer (jockey)

Latest comment: 9 years ago by Victor Middlesex in topic Untitled

Untitled

edit

I removed unsourced info: "In the New Year's Honours List Mercer was made an OBE." This might actually be Joe Mercer, the English football player. Handicapper (talk) 15:19, 3 November 2009 (UTC)Reply

I have been unhappy for sometime with the stated place of birth for Joe Mercer, the jockey, being Ellesmere Port. I see no evidence for this. I find negative evidence for this when I look under Joe Mercer, the footballer, and find his birth place is listed as Ellesmere Port!! I have little doubt the latter is correct. My belief, and I will research it, is that Joe Mercer, the jockey, was born in Bradford, Yorkshire. So again a confusion with the footballer. By the way the jockey was awarded his honour in 1979.(Victor Middlesex (talk) 20:01, 21 November 2010 (UTC))Reply

I had a look in a book I have here, Encyclopedia of Flat Racing, published in 1986, which is usually pretty reliable, but it didn't say where Mercer was born. However, it does state that his brother Manny was born in Stockport, which suggests that the family were living in Cheshire at some point. I'll see what else I can turn up. --Bcp67 (talk) 07:06, 22 November 2010 (UTC)Reply

In Mercer's biography on page 19 it says that at the age of 9 Mercer moved from his birthplace of Bradford to Cheadle, Cheshire. I think that's good enough for me. Manny Mercer is also likely to have been born in Yorkshire unless they moved from Cheshire to Yorkshire and back to Cheshire. (Victor Middlesex (talk) 10:06, 26 November 2010 (UTC))Reply

Just noticed a couple of errors that have crept in with the excellent editing that has taken place. First of all Ribofilio was already favourite for the 2000G and did not become so after winning the Ascot 2000G trial. Second, The problem with Holiday was not because of a disagreement between Hern and Astor, but as I stated with Hern and Astor. The stated facts are that Hern had a bill not paid by Holiday and as Astor was the owner of the stable they agreed that if he did not pay then he should take his horses away (which he did and never had the same success again). (Victor Middlesex (talk) 07:36, 6 January 2015 (UTC)). Joe Mercer did not ″subsequently″ become Colling's stable jockey, he was Colling's stable jockey from the beginning of '53.Victor Middlesex 3 (talk) 16:15, 24 September 2023 (UTC)Reply