Talk:Joe Kennedy III/Archive 1

Archive 1

Joe Kennedy's activity at Damajagua

Before Joe Kennedy's involvement at Damajagua tour guiding was a disorganized social activity. The presence of a large number of youth many untrained resulted in few actually making a living. As a result of Kennedy's activity the guide service was restricted to a smaller number of people who were better trained and as a result those left there achieved better incomes. — Preceding unsigned comment added by RichardBond (talk • contribs) 15:32, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

dates

is this article out of sequence, or did kennedy graduate law school at 23 before entering the peace corps? when did he receive his undergrad degree? something isn't adding up in terms of the chronology... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.98.209.199 (talk • contribs) 01:16, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

Reads Like a Social Register Entry

Lauren Ann Birchfield OF Harvard Law School? I didn't realize Harvard Law School should be referred to as if it were a county in the English countryside or that Ms. Birchfield (is that her current last name?) was a member of the gentry. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.59.212.65 (talk) 16:44, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

Requested move

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The result of the move request was: page moved. Vegaswikian (talk) 23:56, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

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Joseph Kennedy III → Joseph P. Kennedy III — News media commonly refer to subject using the initial. Namesake articles Joseph P. Kennedy II, Joseph P. Kennedy, Jr., and Joseph P. Kennedy, Sr. all use the initial, as do other similar articles about family members, for example Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. I think the only reason it wasn't created with the initial is that name was blocked off following AfDs before subject became notable in his own right. Wasted Time R (talk) 23:35, 18 February 2012 (UTC)

Survey

• Support, per Boston Herald and Boston Globe. Plenty of sources leave off the "P.", but the fuller name is more encyclopedic. Kauffner (talk) 04:03, 19 February 2012 (UTC)
• Support. Seems reasonable for consistency, and as Kauffner notes, many sources do use the "P." Jenks24 (talk) 07:01, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

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Pre College Education

Does anybody know which schools he attended prior to college? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.66.105.42 (talk) 16:37, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

Suffix

This JPK should be Joe IV and father Joe III, since his great-grandfather is Sr. and great-uncle is Jr. Thesomeone987 (talk) 00:16, 9 April 2013 (UTC)

No, because his father wasn't named after the great-uncle. He was named after the great-grandfather. Joseph P. Kennedy II and Joseph P. Kennedy, Jr. were both named after the same person, so they each are the second in ther respective lines. —Designate (talk) 12:45, 9 April 2013 (UTC)

Actually, all the JPK's were technically namesakes of Sr. if you really think about it. Even if this JPK's father wasn't named to specifically honor his uncle, he still shares his full name, and III is officially the next in line of Jr. when it comes to suffixes, even if Jr. isn't the father, so you are mistaken there (even though he is commonly known as II). This JPK's father would only be II if Joe, Sr. and Joe, Jr. had different full names and he had the same full name as Joe, Sr. and not the same full name as Joe, Jr. (i.e. if Joe, Sr. was Joseph Phillip and Joe, Jr. was Joseph Peter) or if he had the same full name as the uncle and not the same full name as the grandfather. You name for one, you name for all. Death has no impact on generational suffixes.

Examples of III's with the same names as Jr. uncles:

1. Ulysses S. Grant III was the nephew of Ulysses S. Grant, Jr. and grandson of President and Union General Ulysses S. Grant
2. Robert E. Lee III was the nephew of Robert E. Lee, Jr. and grandson of Confederate General Robert E. Lee
3. John Jacob Astor III was the nephew of John Jacob Astor, Jr. and grandson of fur-trader John Jacob Astor
4. Charles Francis Adams III was the nephew of Charles Francis Adams, Jr. and grandson of politician Charles Francis Adams, Sr.
5. Richard Thornton Wilson III was the nephew of Richard Thornton Wilson, Jr. and grandson of banker Richard Thornton Wilson, Sr.

All these men share the same full name of their grandfathers AND uncles, thus are named to honor both.

Therefore, Robert F. Kennedy's son is Joe III, and RFK's grandson is Joe IV. Sources such as http://carlanthonyonline.com/2012/02/07/a-presidents-residence-saved-the-kennedy-family-compound-with-rare-photos-of-their-real-life-there/ and http://www.kennedy-web.com/dates.htm list him as Joe IV. Thesomeone987 (talk) 20:03, 9 April 2013 (UTC)

Orphaned references in Joseph P. Kennedy III

I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Joseph P. Kennedy III's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

Reference named "Miller":

• From Bruce Poliquin: Miller, Kevin (December 11, 2011). "Controversial Elm Terrace development gets OK at $265K per uni". Bangor Daily News. Retrieved 12 December 2011.
• From John Quincy Adams: Miller, William Lee (1998). Arguing about Slavery: John Quincy Adams and the Great Battle in the United States Congress. Vintage. p. 270. ISBN 978-0679768449.
• From Massachusetts gubernatorial election, 2018: Miller, Joshua (November 13, 2014). "Mass. Democrats are on to 2018". The Boston Globe.

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 11:22, 21 December 2016 (UTC)

Joe Kennedy III's potential gubernatorial run in 2018

"Joseph P. Kennedy III is wildly seen as a Potential candidate for Massachusetts gubernatorial election, 2018." I think whoever wrote that part meant to say "widely" and not "wildly." "Wildly" doesn't really make sense there, in my opinion. What do you guys think? PiratePablo (talk) 04:19, 24 December 2016 (UTC)

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Requested move 14 May 2017

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The result of the move request was: Page Moved (non-admin closure) - Yashovardhan (talk) 18:15, 21 May 2017 (UTC)

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Joseph P. Kennedy III → Joe Kennedy III – Per Wikipedia:Article titles and common name, the name overwhelmingly used for the subject is simply Joe Kennedy or Joe Kennedy III. This is how he presents his name on his campaign page, House page, official Twitter, and how the Associated Press uses his name. Shivertimbers433 (talk) 22:14, 14 May 2017 (UTC)

• Support Common use in reliable and official sources. —A L T E R C A R I  ✍ 15:55, 15 May 2017 (UTC)
• Support per WP:COMMONNAME. The proposed title is already a redirect to this article. --В²C ☎ 23:14, 15 May 2017 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 31 January 2018

Joe Kennedy is not a communist. He is a Democrat. 2601:CD:401:850:1888:382B:BEB6:EC2B (talk) 04:05, 31 January 2018 (UTC)

 Already done — IVORK _Discuss 04:19, 31 January 2018 (UTC)

Misspelling

Joseph Kennedy is misspelled Fwe46 (talk) 04:08, 31 January 2018 (UTC)

Mispelled where, as what, and what should it be? — IVORK _Discuss 04:21, 31 January 2018 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. I see "Kennedy" spelled correctly over a hundred times and not much sign of a misspelling. Unless this is a joke, please specify exactly which portion of the article contains the misspelling. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 16:22, 31 January 2018 (UTC)

Status of his congressional seat after his 2020 Senatorial defeat?

Did he give up his seat to run?

Of course: His term ends in January. Activist (talk) 11:24, 2 September 2020 (UTC)

Good article status

I see this article has been selected as a "good article," but I also see it has a top-line article improvement tag. I don't know much about the good article process, but can anyone shed any light on this? Thanks. Marquardtika (talk) 21:57, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

Yeah, it should be delisted, if the top-line maintenance tag is accurate in its assessment. And either way, it seems rather under-detailed for a good article. Needs reassessment SecretName101 (talk) 06:29, 21 February 2021 (UTC)