Talk:Jia Junpeng

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Copyediting and translation edit

Desperately needs copy-editing, and possibly some translation from the original article on ZH Wiki. -- 李博杰  | Talk contribs email 08:49, 2 August 2009 (UTC)Reply

English sources edit

Regards, -- 李博杰  | Talk contribs email 08:04, 3 August 2009 (UTC)Reply

Notability edit

I really don't see how this is notable. We don't have articles for every single fleeting web phenomenon in English, why should we have one for foreign language ones? 81.159.146.44 (talk) 16:20, 4 August 2009 (UTC)Reply

Argument from ignorance, WP:NONENG, Ignoratio elenchi, Hasty generalization, Straw man, and Association fallacy. -- 李博杰  | Talk contribs email 07:40, 5 August 2009 (UTC)Reply
QUOTE: "why should we have one for foreign language ones?" Becuase the world is not anglocentric. A rather Argumentum ad populum based form of reasoning, don't you agree? Sure, we don't have every English meme, otherwise the Wikipedia servers would be in overload, but have a look at how many there already are. And then look at how many Chinese memes there are, keeping in mind the non-anglocentrism factor in which you have blatantly crossed (which pisses me off, as well). Then, please have a look at List of countries by number of Internet users and List of countries by number of broadband Internet users, and tell me, which "evil-ass son-of-a-bitch country" is in first place? (N.B. no political remark intended, humour only) Can you really make that futile, baseless argument given the inproportionality of representation of the Internet in China? There are only three Chinese memes on Wikipedia for christ sakes, for an Internet usership larger than the total population of Russia and Australia put together; then have a count at how many "English" (pfft... it's your term) memes there are in List of internet phenomena. Now, This is a very common meme in the People's Republic of China; references can be found in forums and sites throughout, much of those associated with popular culture are aware of the existence of such a meme. Where is your negational evidence that it is "non-notable"? Have you even considered the numbers involved, how widespread it is, have you even done your research before assuming Genius? I publicly condemn such cowardly acts, which are repressive and irrational. English Wikipedia accepts all sources of information. It's one of the first points in the Wikipedia guidelines. Regardless of what language, as long as it proves as a reliable source, Wikipedia accepts it. And clearly, given the numbers, this meme is notable; your argument is based on fallacies of relevance. If you don't like evil Chinamen and their memes, well poor thing you, it just doesn't cut it as Senator, you're no Jack Kennedy, go find a stronger argument. Sorry honey, but unfortunately the world does not revolve around Numa Numas and Leeroy Jenkins, darling, not everyone speaks English, and not everyone cares about fat people in front of webcams, especially in a country of 1.3 Billion where pornography is banned, cybersex is punishable by a jail term and google is processed by Jingjing and Chacha before they are made to use by the public. Try to leave your little world, where all the nations of the world revolve around your brilliant English language and culture, and think about how absurd your claims of "non-notability" are. -- 李博杰  | Talk contribs email 07:51, 5 August 2009 (UTC)Reply

Fine, I won't molest your precious article any more. I was tempted to write out an equally lengthy and inane response filled with delightful irrelevancies about the fascist Chinese government but I won't. I will say that you shouldn't be surprised if this is consigned to a "List of Chinese internet memes" in the future, though. Good day. 81.159.146.162 (talk) 02:45, 6 August 2009 (UTC)Reply

Media coverage edit

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So widespread is the joke, it has its own Wikipedia entry. Even the state-run China Daily felt it necessary to weigh in with an editorial that called the spectacle "a demonstration of collective boredom."

Regards, -- 李博杰  | Talk contribs email 11:08, 5 September 2009 (UTC)Reply

So funny that people believe something finally has worldwide notoriety if its on wikipedia, where any of the hundreds of thousands of WoW players could have put it up whenever they wished. --Scott Greenstone (talk) 20:39, 29 September 2009 (UTC)Reply

maybe Wikipedia's notability criteria is flawed, maybe not WASP american enough. --Andersmusician NO 05:44, 23 November 2009 (UTC)Reply
It just goes to show if it doesn't revolve round the USA, it isn't notable. The sun, moon, planets, stars revolve round G. W. Bush, Barack Obama, Steve Jobs, Bill Gates, American Idol and Oprah Winfrey. Over 2 million hits on Google and not notable [2] Of course, civilians in Iraq and North Korea don't deserve any notability too. Oh man. 121.7.194.27 (talk) 20:16, 24 September 2010 (UTC)Reply

May be a pun edit

"Home" in Mandarin is also pronounced "jia". If the person's name is pronounced in the high tone, then the original sentence may be a pun. I cannot see a repeated ideographic character, but am not surprised, because many characters are homophones. I assume that the person who wrote the original sentence had access to phonetic languages. The original sentence may (in part) be a comment on (as I see it; linguists may know differently) the difficulty with which ideographic languaguages gain new words.

121.73.5.66 (talk) 07:18, 6 October 2010 (UTC)Reply

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