Talk:Jesse Thorn

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Fixed a broken link to a podcast interview about "Put This On". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.107.193.102 (talk) 01:40, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

I basically copied, and then reworded, the New Sincerity section from the New Sincerity page. I don't know whether or not this is against wikipedia rules, and if anyone wants to replace it with something else made from scratch, feel free, I justthought it was important enough to be included on the page.

Jesse Thorn here. I am against skits on hip-hop albums. Someone must have added that as a joke. —Preceding unsigned comment added by YoungAmerican (talk • contribs) 01:02, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

Who originated the comment "Irony is dead", and when? That's important history there. --166.84.254.33 (talk) 17:25, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

This pretty clearly confuses cynicism with irony, doesn't it?

I would also warn about the corrosive and deadening effects of awesomeness. For how long do you think Mr. Knievel seems awesome, exactly? That's where cynicism comes from -- when "awesome" begins to cloy. It's literally what "jaded" means -- worn out. Irony protects against cynicism (by making meaning more supple). If someone happens to be ill-tempered, that's unrelated to irony.

Also, the opposite of "sincere" isn't "ironic," it's "insincere." Again, if someone is unable or unwilling to express sincere emotion, that's not something to lay at irony's door.

Someone who is insincere and someone who is ironic may both not mean what they say, but in very different ways. The person who is ironic means something, the person who is insincere might not mean anything, which is probably what provokes the reaction we see here. There isn't even a slippery slope from irony to nihilism. --96.231.232.246 (talk) 04:38, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

Notability--February 2009

User:Notabilitypatrol (talk) has twice tagged this article, questioning the subject's notability, and has similarly tagged the article for Thorn's show, The Sound of Young America. However, according to the sources, the show is carried on stations in major markets and college towns in different parts of the country--New York, Philadelphia, Salt Lake City, Santa Cruz, Las Vegas, Austin & College Station, St. Louis, Colorado Springs, Detroit, and Indianapolis, plus weekly on XM Public Radio[1] (which, all by itself, would seem to qualify as national distribution), plus, yes, a bunch of stations in Vermont and New Jersey. Unless there is some other fact out there that isn't in the current sources, it doesn't seem reasonable to characterize this as a show "distributed in Vermont and a few other locations." In addition Thorn and the show have received notice in major media sources like TIME, Salon.com, and The New York Times. These articles do have some clean-up issues, but based on the evidence, I don't see notability as even a close question here. What do others think?--Arxiloxos (talk) 20:39, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

There is no question this meets notability criteria. I think that many shows that are ONLY carried on XM qualify as notable. There isn't even really an argument to have here. ike9898 (talk) 20:54, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

FYI. User:Notabilitypatrol is either 1) a brand new user, with no edits before yesterday, in which case he should chill and learn the Wikipedia ways before insisting on things or 2) a sockpuppet, which is of course grounds for blocking. ike9898 (talk) 20:58, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

Please note the related discussion at Talk:The Sound of Young America.--Arxiloxos (talk) 23:26, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

A couple errors

Jesse himself here. I've never interviewed Jay-Z or Eric Idle. The author of the piece in the Times got that wrong. I have interviewed Terry Gilliam and Terry Jones (probably the source of the Eric Idle confusion), and I interviewed hip-hop scholar Jeff Chang *about* Jay-Z. I did interview Stephen Colbert, but I think the only link I could supply would be an iTunes link to the show, not sure if that's kosher. YoungAmerican (talk) 05:05, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

GNC child

In Thorn's podcast, Jordan, Jesse Go!, episode 464, he announced that his child, born in 2011 and named Simon, is now identifying as a female and has chosen the name Grace. Not sure of the proper/best way to make this change. Levibreederland (talk) 21:36, 25 January 2017 (UTC)

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