Talk:Jesse Edwards (businessman)

Latest comment: 5 years ago by Born2cycle in topic Requested move 8 September 2018

Requested move 8 September 2018

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The result of the move request was: Consensus to move is clear, and most favored/least objected-to destination appears to be Jesse Edwards (businessman) (non-admin closure) В²C 19:31, 9 October 2018 (UTC)Reply


Jesse EdwardsJesse Edwards (politician) – Per WP:NOPRIMARY. This article gets about 1 daily views. There is an artist with the same name, Jesse Edwards (artist), whose article gets about 2 daily views. There is also a musician with the same name (AllMusic). The base name should be a disambiguation page. 153.204.39.99 (talk) 14:16, 8 September 2018 (UTC) --Relisting. Dreamy Jazz 🎷 talk to me | my contributions 22:25, 17 September 2018 (UTC) --Relisting. Dreamy Jazz 🎷 talk to me | my contributions 21:06, 26 September 2018 (UTC)Reply

I have no objection to the move to Jesse Edwards (businessman) or Jesse Edwards (entrepreneur). 153.204.39.99 (talk) 14:28, 8 September 2018 (UTC)Reply

Perhaps the same google search is producing differing results when different browsers are used. The first page of results produced by my Safari browser displays the following nine entries:
1) http://www.hooverminthorn.org/history/jesse-edwards/
2) this Wikipedia article
3) the Wikipedia article Jesse Edwards House
4) https://www.facebook.com/pages/Jesse-Edwards-House/105542806145119 the Facebook page for "Jesse Edwards House is a historic house in Newberg, Oregon, United States. Built by Jesse Edwards, the "Father of Newberg..."
5) https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/6178718/jessie-edwards [his gravestone indicates "JESSIE (1849—1924)"]
6) https://www.valleyrealtyprofessionals.com/newberg/ the realty firm which mentions the "Hoover-Minthorn House Museum – The oldest house standing in Newberg, it was built by Jesse Edwards, the founder of Newberg and was home to a young Herbert Hoover and Dr. John Minthorn, one of the pioneers of the city."
7) https://pamplinmedia.com/component/content/article?id=388764 which mentions that "... "Father of Newberg" Jesse Edwards bought an entire block."
8) http://www.newbergdowntown.org/history/history-of-downtown-newberg/
9) https://portlandtribune.com/nbg/144-features/311194-189618-tales-from-%60the-grubby-end-it-took-four-attempts-to-start-the-town-of-newberg- A variation upon no.7.
...At least sufficient to indicate notability. There are numerous additional pages.    Roman Spinner (talkcontribs) 00:23, 9 September 2018 (UTC)Reply
No they aren't as most of them aren't good sources. Again, 4 is Facebook, 5 is find a grave (it lists everyone), 2+3 are Wikipedia articles, 6 is a realty firm, No. 7 and No. 8 mentions him in passing, No. 9 is a repeat of No. 7 from the same source (can't read the full one so no idea if they added more). Out of all this, 8 are not reliable sources to use in any article. Only the first hit has actual significance, but it just reaffirms my suspicion that his notability for being a "founder" (which this isn't even correct per the sources) of a city of ~20k population (which is extremely small) is barely there. --Gonnym (talk) 10:34, 9 September 2018 (UTC)Reply
Since this is not an AfD discussion, there is currently no need for initiation of searches through Oregon historical sources for reliable particulars that merit being cited. However, doubts regarding notability may indeed be raised in view of the fact that, as noted, the contributors to the Newberg article did not make mention of him. If other Wikipedians have similar misgivings, the matter may be pursued further.    Roman Spinner (talkcontribs) 15:13, 9 September 2018 (UTC)Reply

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