Talk:Jekyll (TV series)/GA1

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Most of my comments here are grammatical, and can be easily fixed. The content and sources seem to be largely in good shape. Off-link sources have been accepted in good faith. I'll place this on hold for now, but I'm confident the objections can be addressed quickly and easily. Please address each item line by line and I'll strike them as we go. Good luck! — Hunter Kahn 03:14, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

Lead

• Since the phrases "Dr. Jekyll" and "Mr. Hyde" redirect to Strange Case of Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde, I'm not sure they should be wikilinked in the second paragraph.

Plot

• "Reimer observes that Jackman's alter ego exhibits rage, heightened senses, greatly superior strength and speed and a more playful and flirtatious manner and assures this persona that she will keep his secrets just as she keeps Jackman's but asks for guarantees that he will not harm her." This is a bit of a run-on sentence. Could you break it into two?
• "After being informed of the Strange Case of Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde..." Unless they are being told the story itself, I don't think it should be wikilinked as if it's a story title. If that's the case, I think this should be something like "informed of the case of Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde". Or if it is the story, please make the wording more clear.
• "Traveling to visit his family who he has kept secret from Hyde, Jackman transforms." I would recommend changing this to "Jackman transforms after visiting his family, from whom he has kept his Hyde persona a secret."
• "Reimer and Callendar confront Syme, claiming they know the truth about Jackman. Callendar claims..." Change up one of the claims to avoid redundancy...
• "...between Jekyll and Robert Louis Stevenson." Obviously, we all know who Stevenson is, but there really should be some context within the sentence as to who he is.

Development

• No need to wikilink Strange Case of Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde again here if it's already been linked in the Plot section.
• "The first episode starts with Jackman already knowing about his alter ego. Nesbitt says that it is like a "series zero" has gone before." Maybe I'm just a bit thick, but I find this sentence difficult to understand, and particularly confusing with the "series zero" quote fragment. Could you try rephrasing?
• "Moffat took a while to decide what to call the series." "Took a while" sound a bit unencyclopedic to me. I'd recommend "labored over what to call the series" or "had difficulty deciding what to call the series".
• "...but found the process of having to explain that the book had not been written in this alternate universe cumbersome." I'd recommend rewording this to "...but found it cumbersome to constantly explain that the book had not been written in this alternate universe."
• "In an August 2007 interview with the New Jersey Ledger, Moffatt told Alan Sepinwall that he had a sequel written for the miniseries "should the BBC be interested"." A number of problems here. 1) The quote should not be italicized or otherwise emphasized. 2) Since that particular quote phrase comes from the body of the article, not from the mouth of Cameron or anyone else, it should be paraphrased and not quoted. 3) You are citing for this not the Ledger story itself, but rather a website called "SliceOfScifi.com" that is reporting second-hand on the Sepinwall review. First of all, I'm not nsure SliceOfScifi.com is a reliable source, especially since it appears to be full of errors. (It's The Star-Ledger, not The New Jersey Ledger, and the columnist's name is Alan Sepinwall, not "Sepiwall" as they say.) Can't you find the Sepinwall story itself and just quote that? Maybe in a Google News archive search?

Casting

• "He was announced as Tom Jackman and Hyde on 12 December 2005..." I think this could be worded better. Just something like "He was cast as Tom Jackman" or something of the like would be better.</s?
• "...increasing his anticipation." What does this mean, exactly? Was he anticipating it, or were others anticipating him in the role? Is this part even necessary?
• "...known for her long-running role in EastEnders..." Can you add a bit of context? Even just "the soap opera EastEnders'" would be fine.
• This link redirects back to The Sun's main page. Can you replace it with a better link? If not, I'd remove the link altogether and keep it as an offline source.
• Is it necessary to mention The Sun report with regard to the news about Michelle Ryan and Denis Lawson? Was this just a normal news article reporting this news? Because if so, I think you could just mention Ryan and Lawson's casting without mentioning that it came from a Sun report.
• "...too much as 'Jane', the character she played..." If it's necessary to use quotes on Jane, you should use double quotes. Although personally, I think you should drop the quote altogether and use the full name, so it would be, "...too much as Jane Christie, the character she played..."
• "Other significant roles were Paterson Joseph as Benjamin Maddox, and Linda Marlowe as Ms Utterson." This needs a citation.

This last one -- I've removed the 'significant' part, which might be interpreted as OR. Could it not just be verified by the subject? The JPS^{talk to me} 21:47, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

• I suppose. — Hunter Kahn 18:50, 24 April 2010 (UTC)

• I've added a cite to the BBC Press Office for good measure. The JPS^{talk to me} 19:47, 24 April 2010 (UTC)

Production

• "...and the second by Matt Lipsey." Does this mean "the second three episodes"? Could you add this in?
• "Nesbitt spent an hour each day being made up as Hyde" The phrase "being made up" seems sloppy to me. I'd change this to, "It took an hour of make-up each day to turn Nesbitt into Hyde" or something like that.
• "The transformation itself was never shown on-camera in any of the six episodes." This needs a citation.
• "Filming began in September 2006 with the zoo sequence in the second episode." This sentence struck me as weird, because the zoo reference seems to have come out of nowhere. This needs some sort of introduction, because I wasn't even sure what the zoo sequence referred to when I first read this.

Episodes

• These plot summaries need to be expanded. Per WP:MOSTV, they should be around 100-200 words, and should give the episode's resolution.  Done

Broadcast and reception

• We need consistency between the "p.m."s and "PM"s here. I recommend going with "p.m."

Thanks for the review so far. I've made a start at some of the easier suggestions. Feel free to strike out the completed items and remove the 'done' icon if you wish. I'll have a stab at the others in the next day or two. Considering that there is a plot section, how would you feel about moving the 'episodes' section to a 'List of...' spin-off article? The JPS^{talk to me} 21:47, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

• I'd be OK with that option, although that would remove the ratings/number of viewers from this article altogether. Maybe you could add that info to the prose of the "Broadcast and reception" section? Let me know what you think. (Perhaps a sentence about the ratings should also be added to the last paragraph in the lead...) — Hunter Kahn 18:50, 24 April 2010 (UTC)

All of my items seems to have been addressed, so that's a pass. Congrats! — Hunter Kahn 23:50, 25 April 2010 (UTC)