Talk:James Rogers (British Army officer)

References

None of the references given support the existing topic, which seems to be confused regarding James versus Robert Rogers. Tedickey (talk) 22:24, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

James and Robert Rogers were brothers and shared in many of their Military campaigns, in fact there were 2 other brothers who were officers in Rogers' Rangers. Are you going to deny their existence also? The article was reviewed by Historian Gary Zaboly and he stated the article was concise, perfect needed no additions. I am trying to acquire rights to post an artist drawing of the subject and it will be posted when it is available. Before you go and post such a negative Ambox claiming inaccurate information, you need to go read some books and have more authority on the subject. Referenced books include information on both subjects because of their close association. LOOKinHERE —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lookinhere (talk • contribs) 00:22, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

Hmm. If there were, I would assume you'd have used them on this topic. But you didn't, yet. Please provide reliable sources which are applicable. Tedickey (talk) 00:37, 25 March 2008 (UTC).

Google searches are always good. A Concise Account of North America By Major Robert Rogers and A True Ranger: The Life and Many Wars of Major Robert Rogers. Celarnor ^{Talk to me} 05:10, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

If you check A Concise Account of North America By Major Robert Rogers It was republished by myself and my good friend Gary s. Zaboly who critiqued the James Rogers page is the author of A True Ranger: The Life and Many Wars of Major Robert Rogers. I correspond with Timothy Todish and my cousin Robert J. Rogers, author of Rising Above Circumstances regularly and we support each other’s work. I am in the circle of the most well acquainted authorities on Robert, James, Richard and John Rogers, we don't appreciate those without the knowledge on Rogers' Rangers telling us that they magically have more knowledge. Why do collage students. Unless you go to a library and do some studing you will never know, Exactly what is your expertise on the Subject of James, Robert, Richard and John Rogers, know as Rogers' Rangers? (Lookinhere (talk) 05:04, 25 March 2008 (UTC))

I'm having a lot of trouble understanding what you're trying to get across. I don't even know how that is a reply to what I said. Your prose is very difficult to read and requires re-reading more than once, and I still don't understand what 'Why do collage(sic) students' is supposed to mean. One of the good things about Wikipedia is that we require everything to be sourced via verifiable and reliable sources. Because of this, the field of expertise of a given editor doesn't matter; I am free to edit articles outside of software engineering and cryptography, provided I can cite material to back up my claims. Unfortunately, self-published books generally do not constitute reliable sources for the same reason someone's blog generally doesn't; anyone can do it and there isn't any peer review to verify the claims made inside. Celarnor ^{Talk to me} 22:53, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

No offence Lookinhere, but are you even listening to what I am saying?!. Quote from just below: :As explained on your talk page I did not revert because of bad sources but because you have incorrectly placed those sources into the article. I then refered you to Wikipedia:CITE#How_to_write_them showing people how to use the <ref> tag. Also, I withdrew the csd on your user page as I put it there accidentally. See your talk page again. --Atyndall93 ^(talk | --Atyndall93 ^{(talk | contribs)} 09:03, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

What is Atyndall's expertise?

Atyndall93 has reverted my additions of citations for James Rogers (soldier) before he has had time the read the sources or do any kind of research or study on the subject of the 4 brothers known as Rogers' Rangers and their exploits. I have over 30 years of knowledge studying the subject and have published 2 books on the family which are not mentioned. What is the extent of your expertise on the Rogers’ Rangers? Since you know so much! (Lookinhere (talk) 05:17, 25 March 2008 (UTC))

The Vermont negotiations did take place between James Rogers and Ethan Allen even though Ethan was not charged with treason the negotiations did happen and led to the forming of the State of Vermont. (Lookinhere (talk) 05:19, 25 March 2008 (UTC))

As explained on your talk page I did not revert because of bad sources but because you have incorrectly placed those sources into the article. I then refered you to Wikipedia:CITE#How_to_write_them showing people how to use the <ref> tag. Also, I withdrew the csd on your user page as I put it there accidentally. See your talk page again. --Atyndall93 ^{(talk | contribs)} 05:22, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

{{sofixit}}? Why not fix the sources instead of removing them? References may have to be pretty to get an article to featured status, but they shouldn't be removed because they didn't follow a standard format...and the edits certainly shouldn't have been reverted as vandalism. --Onorem♠Dil 19:18, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

But read the references (noting that some are self-published), and note that most do not even mention James Rogers much less support the statements in the topic (disregard the link-labels, since they're not giving the right information). There's probably some useful material, but I'd start by discarding the existing references. Tedickey (talk) 19:37, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

Thankyou Tedickey, I finally have a friend! :-D! (P.S. Lookinhere, I AM sorry for any misunderstandings that cause you to get angry.) --Atyndall93 ^{(talk | contribs)} 22:44, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

Help bug in page

all after Conspiritor shows up in edit but does not resolve to the page view(Lookinhere (talk) 01:16, 26 March 2008 (UTC))

I saw it and fixed it. One of the ref tags was missing a / on the closing ref Jons63 (talk) 01:17, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

Birth and Death dates

I would check some of that material again. One reliable source, the Dictionary of Canadian Biography Online, uses the dates 8 November 1731(birth); 18 May 1795(death). This is a scholarly and accurate source and should be used as a cross check. Thanks! --Stormbay (talk) 15:34, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

• that is Robert Rogers birth and deat date you have, Robert is James' younger brother, James was born in Ireland about 1726 see [[1]](Lookinhere (talk) 10:03, 27 March 2008 (UTC))

Thank you! I was reading too fast (and inaccurately). My apologies! --Stormbay (talk) 15:27, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

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