Talk:Jamaat al Muslimeen coup attempt

Latest comment: 4 years ago by KyronR in topic Bernadette James
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What were there goals?

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What were Jamaat al Muslimeen planning to do? Did they intend to turn Trinidad and Tobago into a muslim state? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.173.172.239 (talk) 08:33, 28 August 2009 (UTC)Reply

Given the politics of their leader... yes.65.209.62.115 (talk) 11:11, 27 July 2015 (UTC)Reply

Martial law?

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It is probably the case that "A state of emergency was declared by acting president Emmanuel Carter", however was it true that "martial law was imposed"? That would be a quite different matter, and as far as I know the law of Trinidad did not allow for "martial law".203.80.61.102 (talk) 22:34, 13 November 2017 (UTC)Reply

CIA/Special Forces involvement

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Journalist Sir Trevor MacDonald in his book 'An improbable life' - page 26 reports that US 'security operatives' quietly landed in Trinidad and were of assistance, including offering to 'take out' the hostage-takers, but they surrendered before such a decision needed to be taken. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.106.6.92 (talk) 15:46, 12 February 2020 (UTC)Reply

Bernadette James

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The death of Bernadette James, while tragic and possibly suspicious, doesn't belong in this article as far as I can tell. Guettarda (talk) 11:40, 25 July 2020 (UTC)Reply

@KyronR: Please discuss instead of just reverting.
The COE said
The Commission finds that the manner in which Bernadette James died was the subject of malicious gossip which, in a small society, can easily be elevated to rumour and given the currency of fact. We accept that the allegations have caused Mr. Richardson’s widow and Mr. Atwell great hurt and distress (p.590)
and concluded
The Commission finds that, even if the Bernadette James affair resonated with the leadership of the JAM, it played no real part in their decision to attempt the coup (p.591)
We certainly can report on the fact that Abu Bakr made mention of her death among the justifications, but we also need to be sure to present the finding of the COE that it was "malicious gossip".
There's also the issue off undue weight. This article is much too short. Dedicating a whole section to her death unbalances the article as it stands. Wikipedia articles aren't just a random collection of information. They need to reflect things in a balanced fashion. Guettarda (talk) 11:08, 27 July 2020 (UTC)Reply


@Guettarda: Ok sure. We can mention this case as one of Yasin Abu Bakr's justifications. This case is often mentioned in books and media when the anniversary is being reflected on. Not mentioning it at all would seem a bit incomplete under the "Backgroud" topic. I agree that we can truncate this section or we can include it in the "anti-drug campaign" sub-topic since her death is related to an alleged drug deal.

We can also mention the COE findings which brings me to a question. Should we expand the "Aftermath" topic stating more of the COE findings?

KyronR (talk) 12:28, 27 July 2020 (UTC)Reply