Talk:Jafar Panahi

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citation needed

" Jafar Panahi was ten years old when he wrote his first book, which subsequently won first prize in a literary competition."

Itsn't not sourced anywhere...

No source, yes!

And a lot other things are not sourced. The things with his vater n the theater f.e.g.--178.197.233.37 (talk) 19:07, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

On his recent arrest

This news item (published by Keyhān newspaper, in Persian -- on 7 March 2010) gives the reason for Mr Panahi's recent arrest. Briefly, according to Keyhān, Mr Panahi had been secretly producing a film at his home, a film that the newspaper calls "anti-régime" (alleyh-e nezām) and aimed at being released outside Iran. Keyhān says that there has not been any "party" going on at Mr Panahi's home at the time of arrests and the people arrested had not been "guests", but a number of people working on the film at issue. Keyhān cites the source of this news as Sobh-e Sǎdegh, and says "according to a knowledgeable source", but I have not looked into the latter publication which may contain more details. --BF 20:31, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

Like a Magazin article

Its like a magazin article. whatever, how cars!--178.197.233.37 (talk) 19:35, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

What do you mean? Unfortunately as of now no full biography (that I know of) has been published in English, so articles are the primary sources. If you know of any longer biographies I for one would be more than happy to know about them, since many of the book sources I have found are scant in biographical detail. Not sure if your comment is referring to the article's structure or just its sources, but you're more than welcome to copy edit if you you so wish.--66.212.78.220 (talk) 21:19, 21 September 2012 (UTC)

Peer Review

Jafar Panahi

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I've listed this article for peer review because it is the article that I would like to see featured above all others and I think it is important.

Thanks, Deoliveirafan (talk) 19:55, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

• Just a passing comment, but consider breaking the sections "Early Life", "White Balloon", "The Mirror" and "Offside" into more paragraphs; having one very large paragraph makes it difficult on readers. Thanks for your work on this one! -- Khazar2 (talk) 14:44, 3 January 2013 (UTC)

 Doing... Please poke me on my talk page if I haven't added comments within a day or two. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs^(talk) 16:29, 22 January 2013 (UTC)

Awesome. I feel very strongly about this page and would like to do anything I can to improve it. Thank you very much.--Deoliveirafan (talk) 02:52, 23 January 2013 (UTC)

Ok, here's my comments on a pass of the article. For background, I know absolutely nothing about most foreign films in general, Iranian films in particular, so I'm approaching the subject with no foreknowledge.

• The lead begs questions of how Panahi can co-direct a film while being imprisoned, unless it was produced before the ban.
  • I guess that could be clarified. It was made secretly and illegally.
• Kind of odd we mention his first book at age ten and then jump back a year for the film content in the next paragraph ("Early life" section.)
  • Its also a bit awkward because the second and third paragraphs in that section deal with Panahi's interest in filmmaking specifically, but I could find a pace to put it in there without disturbing the flow.
• Is there anything relevant to Panahi during the revolution? Seems like there's a bit of a gap in the article, going from late childhood and then skipping his teens entirely.
  • I agree, and the biggest problem has been finding content. As far as I know there are no full biographies about Panahi's life. Until I find something there's not much I can do.
• The "other work" section feels like a laundry list without context. Perhaps more could be added to flesh out these minor works and they could be better integrated chronologically into the article?
  • Yes but its set up so that each feature film has its own section. I think if anything I'd rather expand that section to also include information about work that Panahi has done on other people's films.
• Not all the critics and organizations seem to be properly referenced in regards to who fought for his freedom from imprisonment.
  • I never really worked on that section very much, it was pretty big when I first started working on this page. I'll check these references.
• The section on responses to his imprisonment feel a bit disjointed; they can probably be better condensed and summarized rather than a blow-by-blow sequence of events.
  • Same as above. Either I or a copy editor can fix this up.
• The biggest stumbling block for the article is the prose. I'm going to assume that English is not your first language; for the most part the grammar is correct, but the article feels a bit stilted and it's hard to read. I will see what I can do but you probably also want to get someone else involved as well, perhaps from the WP:GOCE.
  • We're all entitled to our opinions. Cheerio o matie!

Otherwise, I think the article covers most important aspects adequately and I didn't feel lost or that there wasn't enough explanation. I didn't take a heavy look at the sources as of yet but I will attempt to do that when I do a line edit. On a glance some of the references gave me pause; as undoubtably many of the sources are foreign-related you might need to give them more justification as to why they are WP:RS. I don't watchlist peer reviews, so if you want me to respond to something just ping me on my talk. Thanks, Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs^(talk) 15:12, 24 January 2013 (UTC)

• • Thank you.--Deoliveirafan (talk) 18:13, 26 January 2013 (UTC)

Panahi is no longer imprisoned, is he?

As far as I can gather, Jafar Panah is no longer imprisoned as we speak. As a matter of fact he wasn't in 2013 (when he shot 'Closed Curtain' at his villa on the Caspian Sea) nor in 2014, when he gave an interview to the Daily Beast (cited by the present wikipedia piece).

However, there's no mention of his release from prison. In its current form the article tends to give the impression that he has been and is in effect still serving a 6-year mandatory term. Now either the sentence was suspended on parole, or it was mandatory, in which case it was not fully enforced by authorities. Additional clarification in this respect would be helpful.

Also, please kindly add the relevant information about Panahi's release from jail.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Scientific 02 (talk • contribs) 06:51, 15 September 2014 (UTC)

Panahi was imprisoned from 1 March 2010 until 25 May 2010. The 6 year sentence was never enforced (until now). --94.221.93.22 (talk) 17:54, 18 November 2014 (UTC)

If you can find sources for this it would be great. Because our article is very confusing at the moment. It doesn't specifically say he was imprisoned, but also doesn't say he wasn't and has stuff like his appeal upholding the sentence. And it has info on a lot of people calling for amongst other things, his release (long after 2010), which is very confusing if he isn't in prison. It gets even more confusing in light of the 2015 movie since if he is in prison, the obvious question is how or when he shot it. (Closed Curtain is also a bit confusing but our article mentions it being completed by late 2012, so the possibility of it being shot in 2010 is a bit less surprising.) Nil Einne (talk) 06:08, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

The Daily Beast interview mentioned above [1], does actually provide some good clues. I guess perhaps the OP didn't read it or at least not the intro. It seems his sentence has simply not been implemented, perhaps because of fear of a backlash and the hope that the risk of it being implemented would keep him quiet. I also found a more recent source supporting the idea he still hasn't been imprisoned (for the 6 year jail term) but was initially placed under house arrest [2]. I'll try to clarify our article later if no one else does so. Nil Einne (talk) 14:59, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

I'd like to join the crowd on the "more info on his release / non-arrest" side of the river. It is very weird to see him directing movies (when, according to the article, it should be absolutely forbidden in his case) and even leaving his house (because of the house arrest decision). More info on his ongoing / current legal situation would be really interesting. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 177.45.106.75 (talk) 02:31, 31 January 2017 (UTC)

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