Talk:J. Michael Kosterlitz

Latest comment: 4 years ago by Politovsky in topic Nationality

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He is also a notable alpinist! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.38.167.123 (talk) 13:05, 2 December 2011 (UTC)Reply

Name edit

He seems to go by the names Michael Kosterlitz or J. Michael Kosterlitz these days. Can we get a consensus on changing this? Jonathan A Jones (talk) 17:11, 4 October 2016 (UTC)Reply

WP:Commonname would indicate that as the majority of reliable sources refer to him as John M. Kosterlitz, that should be the article title. His previous published work tends to be that, the Nobel is in that name, and the news sources covering it are using it. Only in death does duty end (talk) 17:14, 4 October 2016 (UTC)Reply

Actually the Nobel announcement [1] uses J. Michael Kosterlitz. Jonathan A Jones (talk) 17:15, 4 October 2016 (UTC)Reply

And so does his University's news page [2]. Jonathan A Jones (talk) 17:17, 4 October 2016 (UTC)Reply

In fact I'm struggling to find a significant web use of "John M. Kosterlitz" outside Wikipedia. Jonathan A Jones (talk) 17:21, 4 October 2016 (UTC)Reply

Almost all his papers are published as "J. M. Kosterlitz" but some of his most recent papers use "J. Michael Kosterlitz". None that I can find use "John M. Kosterlitz". Jonathan A Jones (talk) 17:38, 4 October 2016 (UTC)Reply

His department faculty page and faculty database entry at Brown both use "J. Michael." - Kzirkel (talk) 19:42, 4 October 2016 (UTC)Reply

New York Times is using "J. Michael." I'll request the move. - Kzirkel (talk) 20:05, 4 October 2016 (UTC)Reply

Requested move 4 October 2016 edit

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The result of the move request was: Moved  — Amakuru (talk) 11:47, 11 October 2016 (UTC)Reply



John M. KosterlitzJ. Michael Kosterlitz – News reports, Nobel Committee, and his university all refer to him as J. Michael. See the talk page for specific links. Kzirkel (talk) 20:09, 4 October 2016 (UTC)Reply


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I was a student with JMK and he was always known as Mike and he was still Mike when I saw him again a few years back - I didn't even know that his first name was John Jonathan Bard (User talk:Joanthan Bard) 22:15, 4 October 2016 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jblbard (talkcontribs) Reply

Nationality edit

According to http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2016/10/04/british-scientists-nobel-_n_12330114.html, Kosterlitz is a dual US-UK citizen. 15.203.169.112 (talk) 13:30, 5 October 2016 (UTC)Reply

"U.S. law permits multiple citizenship. A citizen of another country naturalized as a U.S. citizen may retain their previous citizenship". Are we certain Kosterlitz renounced his British citizenship? If so, it should be sourced. If not, his joint citizenship should be acknowledged. Allegiance is not the same as citizenship. Macdonald-ross (talk) 16:37, 28 December 2016 (UTC)Reply
Why is described by the awkward form of "Scottish-born British-American"? Just British-American is sufficient and is all that the reference supports.--135.196.181.173 (talk) 11:35, 12 August 2019 (UTC)Reply
I agree. Changed this.--Politovsky (talk) 14:22, 12 September 2019 (UTC)Reply

Date of Birth edit

He was born on June 22, 1943. I have a copy of his birth certificate [3] see also [4] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 5.29.146.12 (talk) 07:14, 2 November 2016 (UTC)Reply

See WP:BLPPRIVACY and WP:BLPPRIMARY. Jonathan A Jones (talk) 08:17, 2 November 2016 (UTC)Reply

So, what is the problem with the 2 sources I submitted?

These are not reliable secondary sources: see WP:RS and in particular WP:UGC. Jonathan A Jones (talk) 10:49, 2 November 2016 (UTC)Reply
This [5], however, is a reliable source. If you want to source it to that then fine. Jonathan A Jones (talk) 10:51, 2 November 2016 (UTC)Reply
Now done. Jonathan A Jones (talk) 21:41, 2 November 2016 (UTC)Reply