Talk:Ivan Provorov/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Lee Vilenski (talk · contribs) 18:29, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

Hello, I am planning on reviewing this article for GA Status, over the next couple of days. Thank you for nominating the article for GA status. I hope I will learn some new information, and that my feedback is helpful.

If nominators or editors could refrain from updating the particular section that I am updating until it is complete, I would appreciate it to remove a edit conflict. Please address concerns in the section that has been completed above (If I've raised concerns up to references, feel free to comment on things like the lede.)

I generally provide an overview of things I read through the article on a first glance. Then do a thorough sweep of the article after the feedback is addressed. After this, I will present the pass/failure. I may use strikethrough tags when concerns are met. Even if something is obvious why my concern is met, please leave a message as courtesy.

Best of luck! you can also use the {{done}} tag to state when something is addressed. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)}

Please let me know after the review is done, if you were happy with the review! Obviously this is regarding the article's quality, however, I want to be happy and civil to all, so let me know if I have done a good job, regardless of the article's outcome.

Prose

Lede

• Russian professional ice hockey defenceman and alternate captain for the Philadelphia Flyers of the National Hockey League (NHL). -Can we not say "player", and comment on his positions later? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 16:02, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
  • I reworded the first paragraph to split it into two sentences, but including position and captain/alternate captain is commonly used in ice hockey FAs and GAs (see Eric Brewer, Sidney Crosby, Kevin Hayes) Kncny11 ^(shoot) 18:53, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
• Yaroslavl Lokomotiv youth hockey - WP:SEAOFBLUE Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 16:02, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
  • I removed the junior hockey link for the Knights. However, Since Yaroslavl Lokomotiv is a professional hockey club that also owns a youth team (from the articles I've read, in Russian hockey, you start playing for a club's youth team, and then you're expected to rise up to the KHL level), I think it's an important distinction to make here. Kncny11 ^(shoot) 18:53, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
• Wilkes-Barre/Scranton Knights junior hockey -same Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 16:02, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
  •  Done Kncny11 ^(shoot) 18:53, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
• United States Hockey League (USHL) -USHL isn't used in lede. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 16:02, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
  •  Done removed acronym Kncny11 ^(shoot) 18:53, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
• Link NHL Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 16:02, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
  • I'm not sure why I would do this when National Hockey League is linked above, with the NHL acronym next to it. Kncny11 ^(shoot) 18:53, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
• in several tournaments - not encylopedic.Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 16:02, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
  •  Done reworded Kncny11 ^(shoot) 18:53, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
• Lede should mention acolades. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 16:02, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
  •  Done Kncny11 ^(shoot) 18:53, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

General

• where is DOB sourced? It's not in body. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 16:29, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
  • I added a citation in the lede. Kncny11 ^(shoot) 18:53, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
• He learned to skate at the age of five - may need to be more specific. Could be Skateboarding. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 16:29, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
  •  Done specified ice skating. Kncny11 ^(shoot) 18:53, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
• Wilkes-Barre/Scranton Knights junior hockey - seaofblue happens inbody as well. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 16:29, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
  •  Done
• Neither of the sources say he learned English watching "American television and films", other than Gladiator, which I believe was filmed in England. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 16:29, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
  •  Done reworded to "English-language films and television", based on the source sentence He watched a lot of television and movies, to help pick up the language, and specified Gladiator. Kncny11 ^(shoot) 18:53, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
• championship team - which championship did they win?Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 16:29, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
  •  Done specified. Kncny11 ^(shoot) 18:53, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
• midget hockey team - still can't get over it's actually called this.Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 16:29, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
• Link "drafted"? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 16:29, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
  •  Done Kncny11 ^(shoot) 18:53, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
• 2014 CHL Import Draft,- does that mean he played in Canada? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 16:29, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
  • I attempted to clarify. Kncny11 ^(shoot) 18:53, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
• alongside future Flyer- you mean Philadelphia, not that he's actually flying? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 16:29, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
  •  Done and delinked Flyers later in the body accordingly. Kncny11 ^(shoot) 18:53, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
• The next year, - bit of an WP:EASTEREGG.Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 16:29, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
  •  Done Kncny11 ^(shoot) 18:53, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
• second-highest rated defenceman - link defenceman.Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 16:29, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
  •  Done Kncny11 ^(shoot) 18:53, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
• Provorov was named to the Flyers' 2016–17 roster - *in.Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 16:29, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
  •  Done I think? I gave a date for it. Kncny11 ^(shoot) 18:53, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
• franchise history- is franchise needed?Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 16:29, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
  •  Done removed. Kncny11 ^(shoot) 18:53, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
• averaging 25:07 of play - needs better wording.Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 16:29, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
  •  Done reworded. Kncny11 ^(shoot) 18:53, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
• No Flyers defencemen scored ten or more goals that season,[27] and Provorov netted only seven goals and 26 points across the 82-game season.[20] - not sure what the first part is important to the second.Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 16:29, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
  •  Done clarified that the defence performance was overall very poor, and that Provy was one of the ones blamed for it. Kncny11 ^(shoot) 18:53, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
• link alternate captain in body.Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 16:29, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
  •  Done Kncny11 ^(shoot) 18:53, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
• On 18 February 2021, Provorov surpassed Claude Giroux's 328-game iron man streak, coming in second to Rod Brind'Amour for most consecutive games played in Flyers franchise history. - isn't this still ongoing though? Can't really come in second.Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 16:29, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
  • I tried to rephrase this as best I could. Kncny11 ^(shoot) 18:53, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
• THe above should probably be in the lede.Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 16:29, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
  •  Done added. Kncny11 ^(shoot) 18:53, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
• The images in the international results table are a bit weird. Why do we need medals? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 16:29, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Again, this is common in other ice hockey FAs and GAs, like Eric Brewer, Scott Laughton, and Carter Hart. Kncny11 ^(shoot) 18:53, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
• Hi guys, I only have one additional issue - could we source the "Career statistics" section, if so, happy to pass. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 09:09, 13 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Lee Vilenski I didn't see this comment until now, apologies! The issue has been addressed. Kncny11 ^(shoot) 19:24, 19 April 2021 (UTC)

Review meta comments

• I'll begin the review as soon as I can! If you fancy returning the favour, I have a list of nominations for review at WP:GAN and WP:FAC, respectively. I'd be very grateful if you were to complete one of these if you get time. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 18:29, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
• Happy to pass. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 14:30, 20 April 2021 (UTC)