Talk:Italian People's Party (1994)

Popular or People's

In italian "popolare" isn't "people's", is "popular".--Bellini.raf (talk) 10:56, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

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Article's name

Regarding this edit by User:SDC, what about moving the article to "Italian Popular Party (1994)"? Obviously, the same thing should be done to Italian People's Party (1919), which, in my view, should be moved to "Italian Popular Party (1919). --Checco (talk) 21:45, 9 March 2020 (UTC)

Both titles are valid, even if "Italian Popular Party" is the most correct literal translation. However we have to consider that also "European People's Party" is translated into Italian as "Partito Popolare Europeo" and that similar names of other parties are translated with "People's" rather than with "Popular", like the "People's Party" in Spain and the "CDS – People's Party" in Portugal. For consistency maybe it would be better to leave these pages with the current titles. --Scia Della Cometa (talk) 23:14, 9 March 2020 (UTC)

Partito popolare in Italian, as Partido Popular in Spanish, are translated as People's Party in English. So that's the most correct name. Please have a look also at the disambiguation page People's Party. --Ritchie92 (talk) 23:22, 9 March 2020 (UTC)

I strongly disagree that that is the most correct translation, but I agree with the consistency argument. --Checco (talk) 17:52, 10 March 2020 (UTC)

There is nothing to disagree with, it's the English language. You are disagreeing with the total of "People's Parties" articles on Wikipedia, you against the number of native-English speakers who reviewed dozens of articles that are titled like that. We also have an official English translation of the European "Popular" Party which is actually called, again, "People's Party". So there is no doubt that's the correct translation. --Ritchie92 (talk) 10:00, 12 March 2020 (UTC)

Indeed. My argument is both that the translation from Popolare to "People's" is wrong and that "People's" is Popolare (the EPP should be referred more correctly as "Partito del Popolo Europeo"). This said, as a "number of native-English speakers who reviewed dozens of articles that are titled like that" (cit. Ritchie92), "I agree with the consistency argument" (cit. myself). Indeed, when a wrong translation is commonly used, we should stick to that, even though it continues to be wrong per se. At the end of the day, we agree (and unsourced Italian Popular Party should be removed). --Checco (talk) 10:38, 14 March 2020 (UTC)

No, my argument is that the translation from Popolare to "People's" is the correct translation. And this is the argument of the vast majority of English dictionaries, and party names translated from other languages to English. So there is no need to refer to "consistency", which is not an argument. --Ritchie92 (talk) 10:57, 15 March 2020 (UTC)

The only argument is consistency, indeed: "vast majority of English dictionaries" and Wikipedia articles as well. --Checco (talk) 11:10, 15 March 2020 (UTC)

That's not consistency, most translations are well sourced, but OK from whatever side you want to think of it the important thing is that is stays "People's" and not "Popular". --Ritchie92 (talk) 11:20, 15 March 2020 (UTC)