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Istanbul Metro was nominated as a Engineering and technology good article, but it did not meet the good article criteria at the time (October 18, 2014). There are suggestions on the review page for improving the article. If you can improve it, please do; it may then be renominated.

==GA Review==

This review is transcluded from Talk:Istanbul Metro/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: SilkTork (talk · contribs) 13:05, 17 October 2014 (UTC)Reply

I'll start reading over the next few days and then begin to make comments. I am normally a slow reviewer - if that is likely to be a problem, please let me know as soon as possible. I tend to directly do copy-editing and minor improvements as I'm reading the article rather than list them here; if there is a lot of copy-editing to be done I may suggest getting a copy-editor (on the basis that a fresh set of eyes is helpful). Anything more significant than minor improvements I will raise here. I see the reviewer's role as collaborative and collegiate, so I welcome discussion regarding interpretation of the criteria. SilkTork ^{✔Tea time}

Closed. Not listed. SilkTork ^{✔Tea time} 13:27, 18 October 2014 (UTC)Reply

Tick box edit

GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria

Is it reasonably well written?
A. Prose is clear and concise, without copyvios, or spelling and grammar errors:

B. MoS compliance for lead, layout, words to watch, fiction, and lists:
Is it factually accurate and verifiable?
A. Has an appropriate reference section:

B. Citation to reliable sources where necessary:

C. No original research:
Is it broad in its coverage?
A. Major aspects:

B. Focused:
Is it neutral?
Fair representation without bias:
Is it stable?
No edit wars, etc:
Does it contain images to illustrate the topic?
A. Images are tagged with their copyright status, and valid fair use rationales are provided for non-free content:

B. Images are provided if possible and are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions:
Overall:
Pass or Fail:

Comments on GA criteria edit

Pass

Has a reference section. SilkTork ^{✔Tea time}
There's been some reverts, but nothing out of the ordinary. Article appears stable. SilkTork ^{✔Tea time} 13:26, 17 October 2014 (UTC)Reply

Query

Prose is tightly packed with statistics which for many readers is difficult to absorb. Typical sentence: "The trip between the Şişhane station in Beyoğlu and the Haciosman station in Maslak is 20 km (12.4 mi) long and takes 27 minutes; including Şişhane - Taksim (1.65 km, 2 minutes), Taksim - 4. Levent (8.5 km, 12 minutes), and 4. Levent - Haciosman (8.1 km, 12 minutes.)" There is not much prose in the article, and much of it is sentences like that. SilkTork ^{✔Tea time} 23:29, 17 October 2014 (UTC)Reply

Fail

MoS issues. Lead does not follow guidance at WP:Lead - it does not provide an adequate standalone summary of the article. Layout is cluttered, with too many very small sections, inhibiting reading flow and making the article look cluttered. Some sections are mere lists; indeed, a large proportion of the article is comprised of lists. There are a large number of images - some of these squeeze the text, others are lined up in a column. SilkTork ^{✔Tea time} 13:46, 17 October 2014 (UTC)Reply
Images. There are a lot of images - some of these impact on the layout, so failing MoS criteria, others are simply repetitive, so bringing in questions of relevance. The captions merely indicate which station they are, providing no other rationale for the image. SilkTork ^{✔Tea time} 13:51, 17 October 2014 (UTC)Reply
Inadequate sourcing. Article has been tagged with needing cites since August 2012, and I have noticed several areas that would benefit from inline cites. SilkTork ^{✔Tea time} 20:37, 17 October 2014 (UTC)Reply

On hold edit

The article has some basic information about the Istanbul Metro, but this information has not yet been presented in a readable, organised and presentable form. While not yet Good Articles, Paris Métro, Glasgow Subway, Amsterdam Metro, and London Underground, indicate the direction the article could take. As it currently stands the article does not meet GA criteria, so I have stopped reviewing. I feel there is more work to be done than can be achieved in a reasonable time frame, and the best way forward would be to close this review, the article built up and appropriately sourced, and then renominated. However, if one or more editors are prepared to roll up their sleeves and start work on improving the article I am happy to keep the review open, provide feedback on progress, and to assist with the work. I'll put the review on hold for an initial seven days to see what people wish to do. SilkTork ^{✔Tea time} 23:48, 17 October 2014 (UTC)Reply

Thanks mate for putting iton hold i have college stuff to do so i am busy as hell. kazekagetr 08:25, 18 October 2014 (UTC)Reply

No probs. I'll close this review. You can nominate again when you are less busy, and the article has been developed a little further, and has more inline cites. SilkTork ^{✔Tea time} 13:27, 18 October 2014 (UTC)Reply

Stations section edit

Latest comment: 9 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Having just discovered that the List of Istanbul Metro stations article exists, I would strongly urge that the 'Stations' section at this article be seriously trimmed – it should be converted to a short section that just discusses the Istanbul Metro's stations in generalities, but includes the 'Main' article linker to List of Istanbul Metro stations if people want to see the list of stations. But keeping the list of stations at this article is totally unnecessary in this editor's opinion. Are there any objections to doing this?... If there are no comments forthcoming about this in the near future, I may plan on doing exactly that on me end. --IJBall (talk) 18:59, 2 January 2015 (UTC)Reply

Total length of Istanbul Metro is wrong edit

Latest comment: 9 years ago3 comments2 people in discussion

13 km Marmaray and 33.8 km modern tramways as overground must be added into the total length. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Msimsak (talk • contribs) 15:27, 6 January 2015 (UTC)Reply

No, the length is correct – the length in the article covers just the rapid transit portion of Istanbul's rail system (i.e. just the Istanbul Metro itself). Marmaray is commuter rail; the tramways are trams – that means neither are "rapid transit". The total length of all of those added together would be "the total length of all rail services" in Istanbul, not the true "total length of the Istanbul Metro" or the "total length of Istanbul's rapid transit" network. The distinction is extremely important. --IJBall (talk) 17:19, 6 January 2015 (UTC)Reply

Msimsak (talk) 08:28, 26 January 2015 (UTC) Almost all of the tramways are working as overground functionaly in Istanbul apart from historical areas. (for instance Kabataş-Taksim Funicular). Meanwhile, Marmaray is built as commuter line and metro line, all metro which pass from Anatolian side to Europian side using it every 6 minutes since started.Reply

Is Asia on the right side of the map and Europe on the left side? edit

Latest comment: 8 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion

Asia is left from Europe. Pavel Senatorov, developer of programming language Ya (talk) 17:44, 21 July 2015 (UTC)Reply

Yes, that's correct. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 17:57, 21 July 2015 (UTC)Reply

News edit

Latest comment: 8 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion

A project to construct a subway line connecting Istanbul’s third airport to the city center has been launched, said Transportation Minister Feridun Bilgin.

A tender for the project’s testing and preparation stage has started, with the aim of completion in one year’s time, Bilgin said. The tender was made July 27 and after a year of project testing and other processes, the construction’s main tender will be made in mid-2016, said the minister.

“The new subway line will enable people to reach the third airport from several points in the city center faster,” Bilgin noted, as quoted by Anadolu Agency.

The subway line, starting from Gayrettepe, will be 33 kilometer-long and will take 26 minutes from one end to the other. Gayrettepe, where the existing subway, Metrobus and bus lines currently meet, will be the main transfer point for both the Asian and European sides, Bilgin said.

The trip from Istanbul’s touristic İstiklal Street to the new airport will take 42 minutes and 70 minutes from the Kadıköy district on the Asian side, he added.

-> http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/subway-line-project-to-istanbuls-third-airport-launched.aspx?pageID=238&nID=86713&NewsCatID=345

This should be added to the article. 94.219.192.234 (talk) 23:07, 27 August 2015 (UTC)Reply

New news edit

If you look at http://istanbulunmetrosu.com/assets/img/maps/big/2019-sonrasi.png , you can see that many new lines and stations are planned, maybe these should be mentioned in the related section. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.250.87.28 (talk) 15:33, 9 March 2016 (UTC)Reply

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metro ridership number is wrong edit

Latest comment: 1 year ago1 comment1 person in discussion

istanbul metro carried 542 million people in 2022 not 758 million. 758 million passanger includes tram and finuculer lines passenger.

https://www.metro.istanbul/haber/detay/metro-istanbul-2022-yilinda-757971355-yolcu-tasidi Dnzckmk (talk) 17:33, 3 February 2023 (UTC)Reply

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