Talk:Islam in India

Post Mughal era (Decline of Muslim Politics in India)

How can this not have even a mention of the Maratha Confederacy, which is considered (to a certain extent) to have ended Muslim rule in India? I am mentioning it as a passing note. Credible references provided here. -- talk 19:15, 5 August 2015 UTC

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Islam

What about Islam in tamilnadu? 59.97.37.44 (talk) 23:08, 6 November 2023 (UTC)

I was researching India's major religions. Clicked islam to learn the basics and couldn't help but notice a separate wiki page for "Islam in India" almost as if apart and yet apart of the islam from there origins (basics, location and original?). My guess would be the reason is that the local atmosphere of other religions added to helped, enriched Islam in some fundamental way that couldn't be argued with. (Maybe denomination of?) "Islam in India". So to finally maybe answer your question?!? The same might hold true for "Islam in Tamil Nadu" local, regional, national and.....so on and so forth. Tomnookmr (talk) 19:49, 6 January 2024 (UTC)

There is Tamil Muslim. Capitals00 (talk) 10:07, 7 January 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 17 January 2024

Please add this redirect template at the top of the page.

"Indian Muslims" redirects here. For Islam in the Indian subcontinent, see Islam in South Asia.

Summerindiasummer (talk) 06:55, 17 January 2024 (UTC)

 Done Meteorname (talk) 12:19, 17 January 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 20 January 2024

Please replace current redirect with this corrected redirect template at the top of the page. Islam in the Indian Republic redirect works better in this situation to distinguish between India as a republic and South Asia as a whole.

"Islam in the Indian Republic" redirects here. For Islam in the Indian subcontinent, see Islam in South Asia.

Summerindia0 (talk) 03:16, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: People coming here via that redirect are not likely to be looking for Islam in South Asia. On the other hand, people coming via the Indian Muslims link might be. —C.Fred (talk) 03:21, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

@C.Fred: I actually lost the password to my previous account Summerindiasummer from which last redirect semi protected request was submitted by me as well. I initially wanted (Islam in the Indian Republic) redirect to be mentioned in the redirect hatnote but it did not exist as a redirect at that time, as of now it does exist as a redirect (Islam in the Indian Republic). Initially adding (Indian Muslims) was a temporary fix. The Idea was to distinguish between India and South Asia. If you keep Indian Muslims as text in the hatnote than you are taking a chance as Muhajirs of Pakistan who are also sometime referred to as Indian Muslims. Historically, India as a term used to be referred to as South Asia or Indian subcontinent. Since 1947 that is not the case as more countries exist in the South Asia that are not referred to as India. Redirect hatnote created on Islam in South Asia article is trying to fix a geographical problem. It must be done the same here. The title of the article is Islam in India and not Indian Muslims. Indian Muslims is just a redirect here and addon until separate Indian Muslim article is created. Thanks Summerindia0 (talk) 04:10, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

Quoting the {{redirect}} documentation: It is placed at the top of the article or section that is the primary topic of a redirect, and links to other topics that are ambiguous with the name of that redirect. This template is used instead of the generic {{for}} in order to reduce reader confusion.

It is reasonable to assume there is ambiguity in a reader who followed the redirect Indian Muslims. Are they looking for Islam in India or Islam in South Asia?

I do not see the ambiguity in somebody who followed the redirect Islam in the Indian Republic. They are clearly looking for information about the country, not the subcontinent.

Is Muhajir (Pakistan) also reasonably likely to be an ambiguous meaning that it should be mentioned in the hatnote? In other words, are proposing this as the hatnote?

"Indian Muslims" redirects here. For Islam in the Indian subcontinent, see Islam in South Asia. For Muslims from India who emigrated to Pakistan after partition, see Muhajir (Pakistan).

—C.Fred (talk) 14:24, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

@C.Fred: Quoting the Indian subcontinent wiki article: In many historical sources, the region surrounding and southeast of the Indus River was referred to simply as "India". Historians continue to use this term to refer to the whole of the Indian subcontinent in discussions of history up until the era of the British Raj. During this period, "India" came to refer to a distinct political entity that later became a nation-state.

It is a common problem. Please take a look at this article.

"Is the Term ‘South Asia’ Correct? – The Diplomat" https://thediplomat.com/2021/03/is-the-term-south-asia-correct/

Please see this quora link.

"Why is India often referred to these days as South Asia? - Quora" https://www.quora.com/Why-is-India-often-referred-to-these-days-as-South-Asia Summerindia0 (talk) 18:15, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

@Summerindia0 None of that indicates why anybody who followed the link Islam in the Indian Republic would be confused on arrival at this article. This is clearly what they're looking for. —C.Fred (talk) 20:27, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

@@C.Fred:Quoting the {{redirect}} documentation: It is placed at the top of the article or section that is the primary topic of a redirect,...

This clearly says the primary topic. So for example on, Islam in South Asia article, the primary topic is Islam in the Indian subcontinent which is added on that article instead of other nonsense like Desi Muslims or even South Asian Muslims. Summerindia0 (talk) 23:13, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

@Summerindia0 Completing the quotation: It is placed at the top of the article or section that is the primary topic of a redirect, and links to other topics that are ambiguous with the name of that redirect. So again I ask, who refers to the subcontinent as a whole as the "Indian Republic", such that there would be ambiguity? —C.Fred (talk) 04:14, 21 January 2024 (UTC)

@@C.Fred: Then why would this redirect be placed as a hatnote on Islam in South Asia article?

"Islam in the Indian subcontinent" redirects here. For Islam in the Indian Republic, see Islam in India.

This clearly mentions Islam in the Indian Republic, see Islam in India.

Summerindia0 (talk) 04:19, 21 January 2024 (UTC)

I've removed that redirect hatnote. —C.Fred (talk) 13:36, 21 January 2024 (UTC)

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CORRECTION NEEDED

Lede comment "India also has the third-largest number of Muslims in the world." appears to be incorrect based on the reflink on which it is purportedly based ([1]). 65.88.88.200 (talk) 01:10, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

British Largely Ignored?

The British enjoyed pitting various ethnic groups under their control against eachother. In my understanding, they did this a fair amount with the Hindus and Muslims. Yet the period of British rule is strikingly glossed over throughout this article. Certainly we have records from that time. Why aren't there sections about this era? Jdftba (talk) 19:51, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

There is Islam_in_India#Role_in_the_Indian_independence_movement. What type of content do you want to add? REDISCOVERBHARAT (talk) 05:05, 8 March 2024 (UTC)

There is a lot of emphasis on this trope in old-school Indian Nationalist writing, which should be taken with a large pinch of salt frankly. The British found the Muslims largely in charge in many parts of India, and as with many other aspects of the country, were reluctant and slow to change things much. "Divide and rule" is claimed to be the slogan, but really the British found India pretty pre-divided for them. But you are right, there is a big gap in the article. Johnbod (talk) 05:19, 8 March 2024 (UTC)