Talk:Ishmael Khaldi
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Jordanian Bedouin diplomats
editIsn't the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan ruled by Bedouin? They might have Bedouin diplomats, but two out of three Jordanian diplomats on wikipedia are both non-bedouin.
- No theyre not Bedouins. Theyre from Arabia. Metallurgist (talk) 05:46, 6 November 2010 (UTC)
Edinburgh University Incident
editI've deleted the following section. I thought it wasn't neutral, a bit sloppy and may not be of sufficient interest. What do people think?
- On February 2nd 2011, Mr. Khaldi began to give a talk at the invitation of the University of Edinburgh's Jewish Society.[1] Rather than allow the talk to continue as planned and quiz Mr. Khaldi afterwards, 'pro-Palestinian' protestors mobbed the venue and refused to let Mr. Khaldi speak. This was viewed by many as a blow to freedom of speech on campuses.[2] [3]
University security officers had to be brought in after 50 protesters claimed to have shut down a lecture. In retaliation, a talk was hosted by 'Students for Justice in Palestine' earlier that day. It was delivered by Mike Prysner, who has been criticised most recently for drawing parallels between Israel and Nazism, in contravention of the EUMC definition of Anti-Semitism.[4] —Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.74.101.15 (talk) 16:41, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
Extremely sloppy and violates NPOV policy —Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.74.110.134 (talk) 09:31, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
- I would say that mentioning this "incident" (and especially using a somewhat loaded word like "incident" to describe it) gives the event undue weight. The fact that protesters disrupted a speech by a prominent politician is hardly new or note worthy... it is something that happens frequently enough that I don't think it is worth mentioning. Given how recent the event is, I would also remove it under WP:NOTNEWS. Blueboar (talk) 14:29, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
- I would also say that the Edinburgh "incident" is insignificant. I think this whole section can be deleted. As it currently stands, it is biased. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.135.198.195 (talk) 07:50, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
References
- ^ http://thejc.com/bedouin-arabs/44724/anti-israel-protesters-clash-israels-top-muslim-politician
- ^ http://edinburghnews.scotsman.com/edinburgh/Israeli-minister-sparks-demo-by.6710007.jp
- ^ http://www.studentrights.org.uk/2011/02/protestors-bring-shame-edinburgh-university/
- ^ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLuOcI_Lc5o
Unsourced, irrelevant info
editUser is redoing over and over the article to defame individuals and post smears. Needs to stop. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Joatsimeon (talk • contribs) 21:38, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
- Provide examples of smears, because I see none. CTJF83 21:45, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
Note the personal information and NPOV re: Mr O'Hare (some derived apparently from facebook; not exactly a reliable source, I'd guess) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Joatsimeon (talk • contribs) 22:08, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
- No, but Edinburgh News and Jewish Chronicle are. CTJF83 22:13, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
Speech disruption section
editI'm going to remove this brief section from the article. It's highly irrelevant and still manages to be highly POV and slanderous to Arabs. I'm talking about the line "As a common tactic, Pro-Palestinian students and Arab student organizations use disruption to deny free speech to those with whome they disagree." It is backed by two refs: Ynet and youtube. The latter one isn't an RS and even if it is backed by YNET, the way it is written clearly violates WP:NPOV. We could always say "According to YNET or whoever the author is...", but even then it is unnecessarily POV. This is of course in addition to the fact it is an irrelevant section. Some students disrupted the guy's speech, but it didn't even warrant security involvement. No offense, but so what? --Al Ameer son (talk) 02:48, 7 April 2011 (UTC)
- He was disrupted at a Rutgers event also, here are two sources. In addition, he was disrupted at Kent State.[1] I think that altogether warrants a section.--Metallurgist (talk) 19:19, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
- 8 years later and you're still wrong, metallurgist. It's worth noting that neither of the sources you linked are remotely unbiased-- the first is a far-right anti-Palestinian, anti-Arab hate site, and the second is a generically pro-israel community-level paper. Although the whiny BS that Al Ameer son rightfully removed hasn't been replaced on the page, I've added a caveat referring to the hypocrisy of pro israel activists who hate their events being protest but who routinely attempt to slander or shut down any pro-Palestine talk or event on university campuses. 2607:FEA8:A4E0:11EC:8597:A62B:9BD1:8367 (talk) 10:16, 21 March 2020 (UTC)
Arab or Bedouin
editWhich is he? 89.241.51.204 (talk) 10:32, 3 April 2016 (UTC)