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Semi-protected edit request on 28 January 2018

There is a "supposed run" that should include "to" 2605:E000:9143:7000:3832:5234:5BA4:7DB6 (talk) 12:43, 28 January 2018 (UTC)

nice catch, thank you. Dave (talk) 17:15, 28 January 2018 (UTC)

Stoplights also exist on Interstates for drawbridges

The article lists under Standards situations in which stoplights are allowed on interstates. That lists omits drawbridges and other similar bridges. Will (Talk - contribs) 00:12, 31 January 2018 (UTC)

Update the map

The map at the beginning of the article could use some updating, as new interstate highways are not on the map, such as I-41 in Wisconsin, and various new segments of I-69. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Needforspeed888 (talk • contribs) 17:19, 10 November 2018 (UTC)

Global concept applied to many different countries

Hello there. This article is about a global concept applied to many different countries. As the current title suggests a much wider meaning, could we update it with this source? Genium (talk) 23:11, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

The article for the general, global concept is Controlled-access highway. Interstate Highway System is a proper noun for a specific network of Controlled-access highways in the United States. This is explained in the first sentence of the article. The linked source also says exactly this, the first 2 words of the definition in that dictionary are "In US" followed by "system of controlled and limited access highways". Dave (talk) 01:54, 13 March 2019 (UTC)

Term confusion: "freeway" versus "interstate"

Not all interstates are "free" as some are tollways. Examples include the entire length of the Indiana, Ohio, New York, and Kansas turnpikes. Futhermore, not all "freeways" are interstates. Will (Talk - contribs) 00:17, 31 January 2018 (UTC)

@Will Pittenger: the "free" in "freeway" doesn't mean "free of charge"; it's a reference to free-flowing traffic or freedom of movement. Those toll roads/turnpikes you reference are still freeways, even if they have a toll. As for your point, with exceptions, all* Interstates are freeways, but yes, not all freeways are Interstates. (Additionally, capitalization matters as not all Interstates cross state lines and thus run interstate, and not all highways that run interstate are Interstates.) Imzadi 1979 → 00:41, 31 January 2018 (UTC)

@Imzadi1979: True. However, not everone will understand the free part. It's a confusing name. Will (Talk - contribs) 00:45, 31 January 2018 (UTC)

It's the lack of a gratis/libre distinction in English though. Or, put another way, "'free' as in 'freedom' not 'free' as in 'beer'." I didn't invent the language, but that's what the term means here. Imzadi 1979 → 00:54, 31 January 2018 (UTC)

It's not confusing. It's only confusing if you don't know the meaning of the word. Freeway has never meant "does not cost money". I'm afraid we cannot predict every possible way someone may misunderstand a word, and there is no word immune from misunderstanding in a myriad ways. All we can do is use the correct American English term here. The correct term is "freeway". If you don't know what that means, read a dictionary. --Jayron32 12:16, 1 February 2018 (UTC)

Near as I can tell, when the concept of a limited-access highway was first being developed the preferred term was "super highway". However, by the late 1950's the term "freeway" was established as the preferred term and has remained that way ever since. As noted in the related article Controlled-access highway this is a regional preference, and other parts of the world do indeed use different terms. While I understand the confusion, I don't see the need to try to invent new words when even the official sources have settled on the term "freeway" for 60+ years.Dave (talk) 16:30, 1 February 2018 (UTC) P.S. Jayron, be nice. I remember there being jokes about the confusion when I was a child (i.e. why do we drive on a parkway and park on a driveway?), so clearly there's more than one person confused about it. Dave (talk) 20:01, 1 February 2018 (UTC)

I never states I was confused. Only that others might get confused. A solution might be a small sidebar box clarifying things. Will (Talk - contribs) 21:10, 3 February 2018 (UTC)

This is primarily the reason why freeway redirects to controlled-access highway. Instead of explaining the difference, a wikilink will suffice. If the reader wants to learn more, they'll click. –Fredddie™ 21:36, 3 February 2018 (UTC)

Concur with User:Fredddie on this one. A link to controlled-access highway is sufficient. It looks like someone needs to review WP:NOT. Wikipedia is not a dictionary or a textbook. --Coolcaesar (talk) 08:12, 4 February 2018 (UTC)

Yes, please update the map. I do not know how to or I would try. I-41 has been online since April 2015 and it would be fantastic if a map could be found reflecting this change. 98.100.238.18 (talk) 17:21, 5 November 2019 (UTC)

Statistics?

I've heard numerous references from various people about how much surface area the interstates take up. I've tried to find a definitive number and so far haven't been able to find anything even unsupported. It seems to me this would be a good thing to have included. Dismalscholar (talk) 07:44, 9 January 2020 (UTC)

The trouble is that we'd need to find some source that's published that statistic. Without that, we can't add it per our policies. Imzadi 1979 → 00:48, 10 January 2020 (UTC)

AK/PR/HI visual

It'd be nice if the visual in this section was of Hawaii, rather than Puerto Rico/Alaska, as it seems Hawaii has interstates moreso than the other two. It's weird to have the maps for PR/AK but no map for Hawaii. {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 16:53, 11 January 2021 (UTC)

Changing freeway to controlled-access highway

The intro contained the word "freeways" which I changed to "controlled-access highways" with the comment that "freeways" implies no tolls and parts of the interstate highway system are toll roads. This was reverted with the comment No it's not. My other reason for making this change is that freeways is a redirect to controlled-access highways, so I restored the original change with the comment eliminate wikilink redirect. By the way, "freeway" does imply no tolls, here's the Merriam Webster definition of freeway:

Definition of freeway

1 an expressway with fully controlled access

2 a highway without toll fees

Truthanado (talk) 01:05, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

"Dde highways" listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has identified a potential problem with the redirect Dde highways and has thus listed it for discussion. This discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 June 17#Dde highways until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. MB 05:13, 17 June 2022 (UTC)