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Please read and respect the important copyright page, WP:CWW. When copying content between articles, you should attribute with a wikilink in the edit summary. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 17:55, 30 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

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Brazil,[1] Canada,[2] Colombia, the Dominican Republic,[3] the European Union,[4][5] Germany,[6] Guatemala,[3] the UK,[6] Italy,[6] Norway,[7] Portugal,[8] and Spain[6] expressed skepticism about the results, with calls for the will of the Venezuelan people to be respected.[4][8][5] Chile,[5] Costa Rica,[5] El Salvador,[9] Peru,[5][3] Panama,[5] Paraguay,[10] and Uruguay also rejected the results from the CNE, alleging fraud.[5][10]

The governments of Antigua and Barbuda,[11] Azerbaijan,[12] Belarus,[13] Bolivia,[5] China,[14] Cuba,[15] Dominica,[16] Guinea-Bissau,[17] Honduras,[5] Iran,[18] Madagascar,[19] Nicaragua,[18] North Korea,[20][better source needed] Qatar,[21] Russia,[22] Saint Vincent and the Grenadines,[23] Serbia,[24] Syria,[25] and Turkey[26] congratulated Maduro on his victory. Abkhazia,[27] South Ossetia[28] and the Sahrawi Arab Democratic Republic,[29] three states without wide international recognition but which are recognized by Venezuela, also congratulated Maduro.

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  1. ^ "Brazil Urges 'Impartial Verification' Of Venezuela Vote Results". Barron's. Agence France-Pesse. 29 July 2024. Retrieved 29 July 2024.
  2. ^ McKenna, Kate (29 July 2024). "Canada has 'serious concerns' about Venezuelan election results, Freeland says". CBC News. Retrieved 29 July 2024.
  3. ^ a b c Cite error: The named reference NineOAS was invoked but never defined (see the help page).
  4. ^ a b Jones, Sam (29 July 2024). "'Hard to believe': Venezuela election result met with suspicion abroad". The Guardian. Retrieved 29 July 2024.
  5. ^ a b c d e f g h i Cite error: The named reference reuters29jul was invoked but never defined (see the help page).
  6. ^ a b c d "Venezuela: Maduro declared winner amid global skepticism". DW. 29 July 2024. Retrieved 29 July 2024.
  7. ^ Silva, José Gregorio (29 July 2024). "Noruega pidió la publicación y verificación de los resultados de las elecciones en Venezuela" [Norway calls for publication and verification of election results in Venezuela]. El Diario (in Spanish). Retrieved 29 July 2024.
  8. ^ a b Schmidt, Samantha; Sands, Leo; Herrero, Vanessa (29 July 2024). "World leaders cast doubt on Maduro's claim of victory in Venezuelan election". The Washington Post. Retrieved 29 July 2024.
  9. ^ "Bukele señala fraude en Venezuela y dice no restablecerá relaciones si no hay "elecciones de verdad"" [Bukele signals fraud in Venezuela and says that he would not reestablish relations if there are not "truthful elections"]. El Mundo (in Spanish). 29 July 2024. Retrieved 29 July 2024.
  10. ^ a b "Diario HOY | Paraguay expresa su profunda preocupación por elecciones en Venezuela" [Paraguay expresses deep concern over Venezuelan elections]. Diario HOY (in Spanish). 29 July 2024. Retrieved 29 July 2024.
  11. ^ Gaston Browne (29 July 2024). "PM Browne Congratulates President Maduro on His Election Victory". Antigua News Room. Retrieved 30 July 2024.
  12. ^ "To His Excellency Mr. Nicolás Maduro Moros, President of the Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela". President of Azerbaijan. 29 July 2024. Archived from the original on 29 July 2024. Retrieved 29 July 2024.
  13. ^ "Lukaschenko gratuliert Maduro zum Wahlsieg bei den Präsidentschaftswahlen in Venezuela". Belarusian Telegraph Agency (in German). 29 July 2024. Archived from the original on 29 July 2024. Retrieved 29 July 2024.
  14. ^ Agence France-Presse (29 July 2024). "China Congratulates Venezuela's Maduro On Re-election: Foreign Ministry". Barron's. Archived from the original on 29 July 2024. Retrieved 29 July 2024.
  15. ^ Cite error: The named reference ap29jul was invoked but never defined (see the help page).
  16. ^ "Caribbean leaders cautious about results of Venezuelan elections". The Gleaner. 29 July 2024. Retrieved 29 July 2024.
  17. ^ Umaro Sissoco Embaló [@USEmbalo] (29 July 2024). "J'adresse mes chaleureuses félicitations à mon homologue le Président @NicolasMaduro pour sa victoire à l'élection présidentielle du #Venezuela" (Tweet) (in Portuguese). Retrieved 29 July 2024 – via Twitter.
  18. ^ a b "EUA preocupados com resultado das presidenciais na Venezuela, Maduro felicitado por Irão, Nicarágua e Cuba" [US concerned about outcome of Venezuelan presidential elections, Maduro congratulated by Iran, Nicaragua and Cuba]. Expresso (in Portuguese). 29 July 2024. Retrieved 29 July 2024.
  19. ^ "Presidente de Madagascar felicitó a Maduro por su «victoria»". albertonews. 29 July 2024. Retrieved 29 July 2024.
  20. ^ "Venezuela elections: Map shows countries that have recognized Maduro's win". Newsweek. Archived from the original on 29 July 2024. Retrieved 29 July 2024.
  21. ^ "Prime Minister Sends Congratulations to President of Venezuela". Qatar News Agency. 29 July 2024. Archived from the original on 29 July 2024. Retrieved 29 July 2024.
  22. ^ Christian Baha (29 July 2024). "Russia, Cuba recognize Maduro's win as valid". breakingthenews.net. Archived from the original on 29 July 2024. Retrieved 29 July 2024.
  23. ^ Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Foreign Trade (29 July 2024). "Official Communiqué". Retrieved 29 July 2024 – via Facebook.
  24. ^ Nicolás Maduro [@nicolasmaduro] (29 July 2024). "Todo mi agradecimiento al Presidente de la República de Serbia" (Tweet). Retrieved 30 July 2024 – via Twitter.
  25. ^ Nisreen Othman; Manar Salameh (29 July 2024). "President al-Assad congratulates President Maduro on winning presidential elections". Syrian Arab News Agency. Archived from the original on 29 July 2024. Retrieved 29 July 2024.
  26. ^ "Türkiye welcomes Venezuela presidential polls held in 'atmosphere of peace, tranquility'". Anadolu Agency. 30 July 2024.
  27. ^ "Аслан Бжания поздравил Николаса Мадуро с победой на выборах". АПСНЫПРЕСС (in Russian). 29 July 2024. Retrieved 30 July 2024.
  28. ^ "Алан Гаглоев поздравил Николаса Мадуро с переизбранием на пост Президента Боливарианской Республики Венесуэла". President of South Ossetia (in Russian). 28 July 2024. Retrieved 29 July 2024.
  29. ^ "President Brahim Ghali congratulates his counterpart Nicolas Maduro on his re-election as president of Venezuela". Sahara Press Service. 29 July 2024. Retrieved 30 July 2024.
I believe most of this content is already here; if not please add. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 18:17, 30 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
i am onto it Braganza (talk) 20:36, 30 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
@Ratherous: could you add the statements here too Braganza (talk) 11:21, 31 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
@Dainshku and CoryGlee: could you add the Dominican Republic and maybe PLD Braganza (talk) 19:13, 31 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
Looking at the source for Turkey: while it does say that Turkey will support Venezuela "as in the past", which since Turkey has previously supported Maduro would imply continued support for Maduro, should a more explicit source be used to say that Turkey recognizes the official results? I'm not super familiar with the ins and outs of WP:SYNTH. Placeholderer (talk) 17:47, 2 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
I think Turkey should be colored as "Not stated" on the map for now. As mentioned, the source currently used doesn't recognize Maduro, and also Turkey's presidential website has made no statement on Venezuela since the election. I haven't found any good source outlining Turkey's reaction to the official results. (Also should points/questions like this about the map be made under this section, under "Map", or a new section for each one?) Placeholderer (talk) 21:55, 6 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

Map

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The map has a small mistake. Bahrein is painted in green when it should be Qatar right next to it. Gomes89 (talk) 15:50, 31 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

@Ratherous: Braganza (talk) 19:11, 31 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

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Non-UN countries

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I believe having Western Sahara, Abkhazia and South Ossetia in the same category as other countries does not make sense. These are territories mostly unrecognized by the vast majority of the World and should be in a category of their own. Gomes89 (talk) 23:55, 3 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

we should add a disclaimer maybe
like: Venezuela is among the few countries which recognize XY.
but i would let them stay in the continents they currently are Braganza (talk) 09:10, 4 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
I agree, maybe just put them at the end of the Continent list and not in alphabitcal order. Also put the names in Italic.
Anyone disgrees or has other ideas? Gomes89 (talk) 15:41, 5 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
For what it's worth, articles on international recognition of partially recognized states seem to have other partially recognized states in a separate category, like for Kosovo ("Other states and entities"), Palestine ("Not members of the UN", within "Diplomatic recognitions" or "No diplomatic recognition"), and Abkhazia and South Ossetia ("Partially recognized states" and "Former partially recognized states"). After realizing I should look for more reaction articles instead of recognition ones I see that reactions to the 2019 crisis has them under "Non-UN states". However, these articles don't break down countries by continent.
Should this article break down the reactions by continent in the first place? If it didn't, it would be more straightforward to put partially recognized state reactions in a different category Placeholderer (talk) 23:26, 5 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
@Placeholderer: where would we place Taliban-Afghanistan? Braganza (talk) 06:00, 6 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
@Braganza Going by de facto recognition they have a comparable amount of recognition to Western Sahara and much more than Abkhazia/South Ossetia, so I think it would be appropriate to include them (as Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan) in whatever "other" states category. But since they aren't very communicative about foreign policy we might not have to worry about it. If for some reason both the Taliban and the Islamic Republic of Afghanistan give conflicting positions, then there might be an issue (IDK where to look for precedent about that sort of thing) Placeholderer (talk) 13:44, 6 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
i doubt there was any precedent Braganza (talk) 14:11, 6 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

Notable individuals

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@Dustfreeworld: you clearly know what happened, instead of creating empty sections you should add at least the information you add in the notifications Braganza (talk) 11:38, 6 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

Hi there. Thanks for the ping. All Wikipedia editors are volunteers. IMO it’s up to the editors to decide whether they want to add the information themselves, and that’s one of the reasons why the expand section tag has the “with=“ parameter. Further, I added the links as potential source, which is to help the editors who are interested in expanding the sections, but they can choose to use their own (better) source as well. Thanks. --Dustfreeworld (talk) 17:14, 6 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
no offense but you shouldn't just add sections and expect others to do it for you Braganza (talk) 17:50, 6 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
there are other ways to do it, like start a discussion or Template:Missing information Braganza (talk) 17:53, 6 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
No offence too.
According to your principal,
‘you shouldn't just add “Template:Missing information” and expect others to do it for you’
Further, I’m not expecting *you* to fill in the information, I hope *you* aren’t expecting *me* to do that as well. Please note that Wikipedia is a collaborative project. Everyone do what they think they are good at. If you can spend the time to expand the sections, that’s great. If not, I won’t blame you for that. Similarly, please don’t blame me for providing information for others to improve the article (better yet, I expect people like you can click WP:THANKS to thank my edits).
I’m quite busy these days and I hope I don’t have to spend the time replying to this discussion anymore.
Thanks.
PS. If you think the tags are ugly, perhaps you should talk to the tech people instead ... --Dustfreeworld (talk) 18:28, 6 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
Dustfreeworld Hi, how are you? Can you remove Pope Francis? It's already added under his sovereign state (the Vatican/Holy See). Thanks. --CoryGlee (talk) 18:52, 6 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
Done. Thanks for the reminder. I didn’t notice that :) --Dustfreeworld (talk) 19:06, 6 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
If you add empty sections and don't have the time to add the info, you EXPECT others to do so indirectly, not someone directly but you expect somebody will do it at some point
I will change it so its properly and more appealing to look at Braganza (talk) 19:15, 6 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
It seems that there’s language barrier. I don’t understand what’s your meaning of “indirectly” or “directly”. Perhaps you would like to nominate Template:Expand section and Template:Empty section for deletion.
The problem now is that people (especially newer or inexperienced users) may not know where to put the information (and even you had wrongly added the reaction of a country to the section that I started). They may not know how to start new sections as well.
I don’t think it’s now more appealing after your change. The huge tag on the top of the page now is *appalling* IMO.
You may want to review WP:NOBLANKING. --Dustfreeworld (talk) 08:55, 10 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

North Korea

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@Ratherous: could you remove it; NK News: Maduro’s illiberal allies — including China, Russia and Iran — were quick to recognize his win, yet North Korea has been notably silent on the result, with no state media reports on the election or letter of congratulations from Kim Jong Un. (2 August) Braganza (talk) 05:19, 7 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

Neither Maduro nor Gil claimed it either so far Braganza (talk) 05:22, 7 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
@Faustino Sojo: Braganza (talk) 14:06, 7 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
  Done.--Faustino Sojo (talk) 18:46, 7 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
@Faustino Sojo: add Laos, Uzbekistan, Zimbabwe & Mali please Braganza (talk) 19:44, 8 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
  Of course .--Faustino Sojo (talk) 20:40, 8 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

Poland's Response

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Why does this article's map display that Poland "Do not recognize/Asks for verification" as oppose to "EU rejection without national response"? Poland is not mentioned on this page anywhere else. Where is the source??? 2600:1008:A12A:3122:D432:8A26:854B:1EBB (talk) 07:33, 7 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

Reactions

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@SandyGeorgia: if Maduro posts the official document he was congratulated him, you can't really argue that's unreliable imo Braganza (talk) 05:15, 21 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

If we assume a tweeted image from Maduro is valid? SandyGeorgia (Talk) 05:18, 21 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
accusing Maduro of forging letters of mostly friendly countries is a huge stretch, most of these countries congratulated Putin too Braganza (talk) 06:26, 21 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
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